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The Strain S01E10: "Creatures of the Night"


It's no secret that FX wanted The Strain to be its own personal The Walking Dead, the AMC zombie hit that even your grandmother watches. The discussion behind FX's closed doors probably went something like, "People like zombies, so they'll like zombie-ish vampires, right?" And in "Creatures of the Night,The Strain was more like The Walking Dead than ever before. Not coincidentally, despite the latter's up-and-down-and-up-and-way-down-again history, "Creatures of the Night" was the best hour of The Strain we've seen to date even though it could technically be labeled a filler episode. 

The Walking Dead is at its most entertaining when zombies are getting their friggin' brains blown out, carnage is king, and the show embraces its horror roots. If you're watching The Walking Dead to find out whether Rick will ever succeed as a leader, then you're probably also watching The Strain to find out whether Eph will ever get custody of his son and you are not invited over to my house. "Creatures of the Night" took the gore and poured it into The Strain's idea of a bottle episode, with great—if ultimately story-light (except for Jim's death)—results. 


The set-up for "Creatures of the Night" was as simple as it gets, and with horror, simple is almost always better. A bunch of people got stuck in a gas-station convenience store as vampires surrounded the place. The people inside got scared, a few idiots made a run for it with mixed results, various items from the shelves were used to make molotov cocktails, and a bunch of vampires were killed. Great! What else do we need? A few snappy one-liners, and I'm good. I was supremely entertained. "Creatures of the Night" was suspenseful, scary, and focused, and that's everything an episode of The Strain should be. 

Plus, even though it largely stayed put in one location and didn't do much to move the plot forward, "Creatures of the Night" finally took care of some important legwork for The Strain's bigger picture. The series' disparate storylines have been one of its biggest problems; not only have they failed to adequately illustrate the breadth of the outbreak, but they've mostly felt pointless as standalone side stories. Are you worried about Gus's dumb brother or whether his mom can pay rent? Is the Lawyer Lady's husband coming home really that interesting? Do you care about Vasiliy's fractured relationship with his father? If you answered "yes" to any of those questions, go to bed without dessert! I just want to see people punch vampires in the crotch. 

Vasiliy joining The Strain's main Vampire Death Squad was a long-overdue development, because the check-ins with the show's extra characters grew tiresome weeks ago. Think about it. What if "Creatures of the Night" had been the first time Vasiliy was introduced? Would anything change about the story? Not really. You'd just be all, "Hey, this new guy is pretty cool, bro!" So it's a huge relief that we can now put one of The Strain's dangling threads behind us as survivors start combining forces to put silver bullets through vampire faces, in accordance with the classic formula of "ragtag gang fights supernatural threat." 


Or course, since "Creatures of the Night" was so entertaining when it stuck with one group, the episode also highlighted some of The Strain's ongoing weaknesses. Namely, that most of the show's other stories are little more than time-killers. Yes, Gus obviously. But also Eldritch (the old man with organ failure), Abe and Eichorst's flashbacks, and any one of the original four survivors (most of whom are dead now). Did I like "Creatures of the Night" mostly because those storylines were marginalized as the episode concentrated on killing vampires? Probably. That's a problem The Strain will have to fix soon. 

"Creatures of the Night" also featured the series' first major death. R.I.P. Jim, you sniveling little snake! I'd say The Strain passed the "anyone can die" test by infecting and killing off a main character. I expected Jim to survive, mostly because he's played by Sean Astin, who is arguably the most recognizable actor on the show. But nope! We got a fake-out save and an incredibly surprising death once Eph realized Jim was full of worms. I loved the way Jim's demise was handled, personally. Anytime this show isn't predictable, it's going to be great, and Vasiliy's quick action was badass. For a second there, I thought Jim might try to go out a hero as his last attempt at redemption, that he'd sacrifice himself by distracting the vampires so the others could escape, but having Vasiliy shoot him in the face was so much better. And the icing on the cake? Eph telling Vasiliy, "If you get stung, I won't hesitate to return the favor," and Vasiliy responding, "That's the spirit, Doc, that's the spirit!" Because you know what? That IS the spirit. And the speed at which Jim was offed was fantastic because it dictates some rules of this show. Anyone, even someone who once played a Hobbit, can be killed fast

The Strain isn't rid of its problems, but episodes like "Creatures of the Night" make me hopeful for its future. Keep it simple, keep it focused on the danger of the outbreak, and for crying out loud, kill a bunch of vampires and humans every week. 



NOTES

– Continuing The Walking Dead comparison, Vasiliy is clearly The Strain's Daryl Dixon. So what about everyone else? Eph as Rick? Nora as Lori? Annoying hacker lady as annoying Andrea? 

– What does Vasiliy do when he's faced with death? He buys lottery tickets, of course. Why not? And how about his moment of panic at the gas station pump (by the way, gas station pumps apparently work when phone lines and internet do not), when he admitted that his credit isn't so good and asked for Eph's zip code, then chose premium-grade gas? Funny stuff, and exactly what the show needs more of. 

– Where's the Rocker? It's been a while since we've seen him, no?

– I really like Eph's scientific POV; he can instantly spout off percentages about how much UV light can get through glass or explain the viral die-off rate from UV light. Dude is all science and stats! 

– I also liked Eph's answer to the question we all have: Is this a disease, or are these vampires? "It's a transformative disease that makes people predatory and extremely dangerous." In other words, it's both, but it seems as though Eph refuses to believe we should call them vampires.

– Who else really wanted Hacker Girl to die? 

– I really enjoyed all the stuff with the clerk hiding in his cashier's booth. He probably didn't make it, eh? Dummy.

– New things we learned to fill out our "Vampires: Strain Edition" handbooks: 

  • UV light burns 'em just as sunshine would. 
  • It takes about a month for vampires to mature, so the new ones we've be seeing aren't quite ripe yet. 
  • The Master can choose certain vampires to be Super Vampires who retain some of their former selves. 


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AIRED ON 10/4/2015

Season 2 : Episode 13

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Who else really wanted Hacker Girl to die?
I hope she dies soon, she is so annoying...
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I like all the different character back stories. I feel that's usually left out in shows like this. I'm not gonna discount those characters that don't seem to mean much at the moment either. As for the four original survivors, I enjoyed seeing how each of them progressed and how it impacted their loved ones. It rounds everything out. Now when we get to the gore and killing its not just action on a screen, I actually care about the characters, and for me that's always a plus.
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That's what bugs me. Tim is a TV connoisseur, an expert, and yet he wants to eschew the things that make fiction great - primarily character development that makes a character feel real and causes a reader/viewer to feel for them/identify with them, and just have 45 minutes of punching vampires in the crotch. That's a video game, not a television show. And even then, game connoisseurs would be complaining that the game lacks a story to make it compelling.
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Oh yeah, they weren't in this episode but the vampire_vampire hunters from the last episode, yeah I'm excited for that. I always love a rebel.
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If you havent seen the preview for the next episode, you should. Its on fx.com and youtube. Its amazing.
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I still can't shake off the fear that Eichorst might have raped young Setrakian. When he mentioned Eichorst was evil, the flashback showed him drunk and unzipping his pants, and his being so flirty with the sandwich also did not help. Or maybe they just became good friends after the carving project, so becoming a strigoi must have been a betrayal to Setrakian.
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I guess you havent seen the preview for the next episode. It shows a bit of how Ike became. There was no friendship tween Ike and Abe. Ike like to pull the wings off of flies.
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I agree that the show completely changed for me when they started adding a little humor. This is entertainment, so we can live with all the incongruities, like how a card transaction would go through when there's no electricity, and UV lamps that charge in 5 minutes. Rat guy is one of my favorite characters, so I'm glad he joins the team. Now here's my suggestions:
✓ Have the master kidnap the terrible female scientist. I know she has to be there for love interest and other reasons, but either write something for her that works, or take her out of the episodes without killing her.
✓ When she's off screen in the present, do some flashbacks to show that in normal times she and the guy who was killed in this episode, the one who is responsible for the entire premise of the show were competent people. ✓ Added bonus, some racy love scenes, where CDD man almost sleeps with her, but decides against it.
✓ More flashbacks to Rat Man's past. Man, that whole "You look like looters... I'm a looter." was brilliant. More of that!
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The episodes are getting better and better. It's a complete surprise to me that they have created Vampires that are actually monstrous and have kept the creatures scary and dangerous. The virus/science angle is interesting and the way they keep the Master mostly off camera and mysterious is perfect. Some great acting in the portrayals of Satrakian and Eichorst. I appreciate the doggedness of Eph and Nora continuing to look at it as a disease and the Fet character brings some coolness to the cast. Great show so far!!
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Great Episode it reminded of the Walking Dead mixed with 30 days and nights better then boring Skies , I am glad Rat guy I can't pronounce his name teamed up with F. It did bring more dimension to the story , I do like the back story of Abraham with german commander doing his Christopher Waltz thing. There is that struggle that Abraham lives with that he brought the master to this point and he feels enormous guilt.

The vampire Blade 2 squad is weird are they mutated vamps rebelling against their master or something else? Looking forward to next episode hopefully this keeps going till BE and Walking Dead starts.
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The the crossbow vamp is the progeny of a pregnant woman The Master fed upon. In that way The Master is his father. He was born a vampire and half human. His wingmen are the progeny of The Ancients , which are The Master's siblings. The siblings are also his rivals.
The Strain's mythology is interesting, though almost none of it has been revealed.
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Thanks good to know hope they help F although I doubt abraham will want their help as their are still part of the master. They could also give the Hispanic guy more to do I can't remember his name as he a good character
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Surette!!! You're killin' me over 'ere!!!

"The Walking Dead is at its most entertaining when zombies are getting their friggin' brains blown out, carnage is king, and the show embraces its horror roots. If you're watching The Walking Dead to find out whether Rick will ever succeed as a leader, then you're probably also watching The Strain to find out whether Eph will ever get custody of his son and you are not invited over to my house."

Not for nothin', but THIS is what drives me nuts about Walking Dead (and potentially by extension The Strain) fans. Dumb things down as much as possible to cater to the most simple audience who's looking for televised gore porn. IMO, it isn't the most entertaining since so much of the focus is on the special effects team showing off their skills, stuff like continuity drops off a cliff while suspension of disbelief soars to new heights.

That you're promoting this both encourages more of this popcorn viewing, which wouldn't be so bad if it weren't so hypocritical. By your own words, "'Clear' is the best episode of TWD to date and the worst part of that episode was the zombies. "Clear, breached new dramatic territory for The Walking Dead Season 3, and I'll put myself out there by saying it was the best of the season so far. No, it wasn't action-slammed and it didn't feature a river of zombie brains and intestinal tracts. But it was one of the most thought-provoking, enlightening, and well-written episodes of the series. That is to say, "Clear" felt deserving of one of television's grandest compliments: It felt like "a cable-quality drama.". A similar sentiment for another episode that routinely ranks in most top 10 lists, "18 Miles Out was probably the most mature episode of Season 2 in terms of storytelling ability. The pacing was fantastic, there was more depth (now we can go waist-deep), and there was some attempt to further stylize the show.". There are plenty of examples just like this.

So, the best comparable show to The Strain is at it's very best when it's in fact not "blowing brains out" or when "carnage is king", but when it slows down and focuses in on its characters? Looks like even you're not invited over to your own house.

"If you answered "yes" to any of those questions, go to bed without dessert! I just want to see people punch vampires in the crotch."

{sigh}
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  • Cool episode esp in finally getting Vassily into the team (like the reviewer said, it was all the more rewarding after the little intros to his character we've been getting) and I also liked that they have the hacker girl in the team as obviously she is a great asset even if they do not know that yet.
  • Rather than be a filler episode, to me it indulged in a bit of a protracted battle with the supermarket scene going on and on but at least in the end they made it but without Jim which I think was a good development for the show signalling that not everyone will make it in the end and sacrifices must be made. Eph and Nora were a bit annoying in their self-righteousness since Jim asked to be killed but hey...
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I liked this episode a lot too but one part of the review I don't get. Who is Gus?
I don't remember him unless he's the 2 dimensional latino gangster the network chucked in for 'demographic authenticity' or whatever.
As I've said before if I had a spanish american heritage I think I would rather be left out of the show altogether than continually be cast as some dumb gangster 'bro' or whatever in every TV show. How do they pretend not to cliche cultures as a quick way of rolling out plot? Still maybe Gus will bring in 'the Cartel' or somesuch nonsense.
Same same for the flashbacks. There has been really evil stuff done to all sorts of different cultures by cruel n greedy sociopaths ever since one bloke picked up a sabre tooth shin bone and whacked a poor innocent over t'head with it.

Why oh why, do we always hafta have that same old, lame old, holocaust stuff? If they made the Abraham bloke a Palestinian who had been rounded up by the Yamam during a west bank cleansing, pawn shop bloke wouldn't hafta be so unrealistically old. (work it out - say he was twenty in 1944 the flashback time - that makes Abraham 90 now - not a realistic age to be chopping off vamps' heads with a silver sword eh)

Nah just kidding - we don't need the level of uninformed histrionics created by something that controversial. But isn't making the local money-lender a Jew pretty OTT racist anyhow?
There are examples of unjust oppression all over the planet which could be used to provide a TV show's sub plot, using something different from the flogged to death horse that is the holocaust would be much more interesting as well as more credible.

Too late now but tv execs how about remembering this next time?

Apart from that the gas station/convenience store set worked well for me. I liked having the hacker there (she had a delightful Sydney twang to her lilt or is that lilt to her twang?)
Yet once again TV cliché du jour abound. It seems that hacker girl (as Seinfield once put it) "bats for the other team".
This was portrayed in the most crass way imaginable by having her spend 15 secs playing "no I dropped you" with another attractive young woman.

I mean to say who cares.? A big mob of ugly, dangerous and angry vamps is gathering outside, yet the audience is meant to accept that these two women are gonna pay that no mind - Just so a minority of 20th century knuckle-draggers can have a quick fantasy of a threesome with two nubile lovelies and his own flabby, pale and pimply self?

Sorry this is sounding so much like a boring rant from some PC driven puritan, but I dunno about others, I just really hate when a halfway decent show blows it by pulling these lame-O strokes . I lose immersion at getting po'd about being treated like a credulous ninny by an entertainment which should be striving to engage the audience's intellect.

Of course they were going to get out of the gas station, otherwise no story next week, but the interest as always, is in how they escape.
Jim had to die - we wouldn't have been able to endure another episode of his failed self justifications and/or whinings about how he "let everyone down".
Much better to blow the dingbat's face off his skull and move on without a backwards glance.

Yep all in all a much better episode. I kinda hope hacker girl stays to become a member of the team but judging by comments from reviewers who should know better than to read the book she's gonna be 'jimmed' i.e. come over all guilty before cosmic karma kills her. I hope I'm wrong about these spoiler inferences some peeps have made.
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A lot of what you posted is true , the whole mexican stereotyping and Nazi/holocaust back story has been done to death. But in this case you can't blame the tv execs, so far they have been following the books closely , the books were co-written by a Mexican Guillermo del Toro. so you can blame him for stereotyping his fellow Mexicans Anyway I hope the tv show deviates from the books as the story progresses because books 2 & 3 were just horrible .
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For me, book one was a sleeper and two and three were far more interesting because stuff actually happened in them.
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"the 2 dimensional latino gangster the network chucked in for 'demographic authenticity' or whatever."

I admit I've seen that more than once. Gus becomes pivotal eventually. Del Toro is latin, so you know he can't have some token latino hangin around. Actually I think GDT will make up a couple more minority charatects just for the show, Or expand the roles of some of those characters created for the book. Ruby Wain for instance.
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Yes that is Gus and as the book reader fanatics will soon tell you he's an important character who will eventually be relevant and saves the world or some such nonsense (I'm just quoting them) and was added because Guillermo del Toro always has a hardcore latino character in his films. Just like he always has things in glass jars hanging around.
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..i thought it was one of the worst ep. So far... damn even the dialoques were slow....booorriing ep as hell!
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The biggest question I had about this episode was how could Nora be sure her mother would stay put in Abe's shop, considering she apparently has Alzheimer's and kept wandering out of the rest home. I was also half-expecting the hacker to die before revealing her part in crashing the Internet, but I guess the writers gave her the gift of living at least one more episode so she can point our band of vigilantes in the direction of Eichorn's benefactor with the failing organs.

This episode really had the feel of an '80s siege movie. The only thing missing was a completely synthesized score. And yay, no captions this week.

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I bet she stuck her hand in the glass jar the Professor keeps his old 'loved one' infected heart inside of and got infected so that Vasily has to put another extraneous character down with 2 to the head next week.
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TIll now this was the most boring episode of the season for me..
Stuck all together in such a small place, surrounded with vampires and in the end they still manage to escape...with some UV lights?????
Nope this episode didn't do it for me...the only cool thing was when Jim got shot ....that was awesome....!!
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As long as the nanny stays alive till the end i will keep watching lol she is my favorite
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I think she was invented just for the show. Maybe to offset the blatant stupidity of other characters.
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Dear TV.com, you have this down as episode 10 at the top of this review, which had me worried that I had missed a few episodes, especially since I think there are only ten episodes to this season (?). Just pointing that out.
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True it was the 8th episode I think
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This show has been up and down. SO far i have to grade it at about a B-
When the vampire strike team was introduced.. I had to roll my eyes.. but when i look at old man and his team fighting the evil..I keep telling myself they ARE going to need some help..I agree with reviewer below me. The girl who just ran out in the middle of the vampires all most forced me to delete my DVR recording..and don't get my started about the Quiki Mart attendant...But the killing of the Sean Astins' character and the reactions of his friends was on point. This was my second favorite episode. The 1st being the pilot ep...The potential is there(for greatness) and i will be watching
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Quinlan's a major character who wasnt even supposed to show up til book two, so you know he'll show up again soon. In fact there's a book chapter devoted solely to his ancient origin.
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Good episode.. but the character's reactions are still to stupid :P
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I dont understand your weird aversion for the Abe and Eichorst flashbacks . I dont get how it would be uninteresting , if you're into the show , to see more of how both came to be hunters and strigoii . What's painful is Eph's attitude in general . And his denial about the ideas of vampires , when even if it's a frickin' vampire , just likening it to what they frickin' do is faster than explaining the science behind it , especially when it's clear you're overwhelmed on the science side
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I can't stand Eph and his family….same goes for Nora but she has potential. I like all the other characters, even the villains
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Totally overwhelmed on the science side... Maybe Eph's secular pigheadedness is meant to help emphasize some spiritual crap. Much about The Strain is impossible to see from here.
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I don't think this episode wouldn't have done as good if they didn't introduce Vasily and that hacker chick before this episode. This episode had all most no filler in it. if they had to spend even a few min introducing Vasily and the hacker chick then they couldn't have fit all that great carnage in one episode. We had someone to root for and someone to hate form the moment we saw them.

This episode was the best so far and I think part of that is the setup from past episodes.
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He calls it filler because its just a made up episode almost entirely scripted on the walking dead. Its not part of the trilogy. There are good and bad filler episodes. this is one of the good ones.
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I should have used a different word. I was talking about filler as in time killing inside an episode. Location shots. needless explinations. That stuff. This was totally a filler episode in that it didn't move the story forward(much), but it didn't have a slow needless sideline story just to fill out the 42 min.
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I agree,and it did bring Fet into "the resistance" which would have probably not happened for a long time following the book.

I wonder if they"ll ignore Eph and zoom in on Gus and Quinlan in the next couple eps. If the do it should be really good and take things to an even higher plateau.
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I love this episode. I love Vasily. I am okay with the rest of the personal stories. I think it makes this episode richer.

Hacker girl was the main lead on "Do not harm" and I liked her here too.

Still the 2nd best show this summer,second only to Masters of sex.
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Eph & Nora are idiots, still not believing what they see right in front of them. How stupid were they when they were unwilling to kill Jim & wanted to take him to be treated. So they can risk the lives of the group & maybe Jim's family if he turns but not Jim's life? Then Eph tells Vasily he'll return the favor if he gets infected. So he'll easily kill Vasily but not Jim? Is Jim's life worth more than anyone else's? What a hypocrite!
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For Eph, Vasily's life worths less than Jim.

It's basic clique mentality: Nora & Jim are "one of us", Setrakian is an educated person, so he fits in too. Vasily is just another random, much like the plane survivors were.
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judgmental elitist snobs! Not all professionals are like that
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Setrakian isn't, neither was Jim for that matter...I had hoped for Nora, but she seems to be set on the same mentality as Eph is.
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I really dislike Eph and his family (and Nora). But I like all the others including the villains.

by "judgmental elitist snobs, I was referring to Eph and Nora
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Writers wanted Eph and Nora to simulate the stages a person goes through on the way to accepting the impending death of a friend. Denial is the first stage of grief you know.. Eventually comes Anger.
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For me this was the best episode so far. I think TWD is better at personal stories than The Strain. And The Strain is far better at action. My personal opinion only. This was almost standalone for an episode, but it was important in the main story too since several characters met and we learnt a few new things about the vampires rules. Great episode.
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I'm on the verge of quitting this show. Definitely not living up to my expectations. Nora is an idiot, the hacker girl & the other stupid woman did one terrible job at acting. Who runs out of a store seeing those things outside btw. And I'm still not over the fact that they were working towards the whole eclipse thing and it hardly changed anything and took like 10 minutes

... I don't know. If the show doesn't pick up the pace soon I'm quitting after this 1st season.
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Tim, how could you not also add Abe to the comparison of TWD characters? As a more bad-ass Dale or maybe a Dale-Hershel amalgam?
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As much as I loved Dale & Hershel they were far from erudites (sorry you guys, but it's true).

Not to mention, they place way too much of their love in the people around them to be as effective as Setrakian.
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We suppose to see the hacker girl again right? She was the one who hacked the city and hired by the big bad(I don't remember his name -_-). I believe she hasn't realized yet that is connected to the whole vampire story.

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She tried to come out and explain that when they were at the petrol pump, but it started working so she didn't complete her statement.
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i thought it was hilarious when V gave that look then picked premium gas. very funny stuff.

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100% agree

Think about it. What if "Creatures of the Night" had been the first time Vasiliy was introduced? Would anything change about the story? Not really.

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i learned about #thefappening last night about halfway through the strain, so i wasn't paying much attention to the last 20 min or so. yes i could have rewound it, but figured i could come here & catch up.

thanks for the recap!
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"Nora as Lori?"

Now that's just mean.
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Tbh at this was at best a filler episode n didn't really have me clinging on to the edge of my seat. I was really looking forward to seeing the Vampire SWAT team n finding out more about them. Well at least they finally roped in Vasiliy,I'm stoked about at that at least. N when will Eph n his lady friend finally realize they're not dealing with a virus?? I mean wat more proof do u guys need? Anyway really hope they bring back the Vampire SWAT team in the next episode
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I disagree with the reviewer. We need character development along with the smash-em-up storylines.
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I like this show far more than The Walking Dead, for ones this show seems to go somewhere and the people are not randomly walking around! Oh and it got real bad guys not just that "walkers" or the brain damage humans!
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TWD hasn't been good since they got stuck on Herschelle's farm in season 2 ! At least in the Strain the characters try to find and combat the root cause of the "disease" instead of just holing up in a place and boring the viewer to death :)
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Then again, The Strain is a goal driven story: get son custody, process the plane, study the illness, kill the plague, protect the love ones, get reinforcements, go to battle and so on.

The Walking Dead characters have long since gave up on taking over the world or exterminating the zombies, they are just adapting to the reality they live in for as long as they get to live in it.
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Exactly. Except the adapting part but that is largely due to their inability to learn from their mistakes. It is more of a stumbling from thing to thing and reacting without thought. Which was epitomized when they were trapped in that boxcar.
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To me, the main difference is that characters from The Strain still have a fighting chance to reclaim their world, even with the increasing number of vampires: they still have it.

The characters from Walking Dead, on the other hand, have already lost the entire world to the zombies: The Dead rule the earth and the living are just making time until they inevitably join them.
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@Mate: No, agree with you this virus seems faster, but the thing is the characters don't know it yet, so they can hold on to hope in a way TWD character never could.
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Given the universe where they live in, that is a fair and accurate point. However, knowing how fast viruses spread and how fast these worms multiply I would say that this virus is far faster than the one in TWD and is only still in Manhattan because the creators of the story deem it so. In reality, especially how fast people move now, particularly in and out of Manhattan, it would already be on the other side of the world. The main contrast between the two would be that presumably Abraham is correct and if you kill the Master the the rest die. But then TWD has Eugene and his "cure" (that is if you believe that huge load of crap).

Someone should do a compare and contrast article on the various viruses in our shows. We have the virus in Helix, the zombie virus, the vampire virus here and whatever virus is making the people of Chester's Mill so freaking stupid in UTD.
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Yeah I know that we are stuck in a Kwiki Mart and a shitload of vampires are on the verge of busting in through about 8 places to kill us, but let's take the time to talk A LOT about various subjects.
At least Rudy died, I guess...
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Rudy who?
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Sean Astin
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I guess you're talking about Rudy the football kid? I vaguely remember that movie. Didnt know he was in it.
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the most famous is probably abe setrakian aka walder frey of the twins on game of thrones, whatever his real name is.

see what i did there?
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And 24 one of the seasons Roger Cross was there. The Strain may have killed off the most famous actor on the series (at least so far).
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Rudy, The Goonies, and the first LOTR trilogy.
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How long until this team gets a big armored truck to fend off these creatures? Something covered in UVC lamps with silver-shooting turrets, silver spikes, airless tires, a flex fuel engine, it's own air supply, would seem to be ideal.
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Yeah man because all of those things are super easy to obtain, let alone obtain in New York lol
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Er, watch the news lately? Apparently the average podunk town already has half of this stuff.
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You might see something like that. The writers have only hinted at where the show is going, but I'll tell ya that what you see now is radically different from whats to come.
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To be honest, Eph has always been Dr. Jenner to me. Nora would be a mix between Beth and Carol: the actual Daryl Dixon would've been thrilled by it!

RIP Jim, I knew you were doomed when I figured you weren't on the books. Your death was still shockingly fast, so good work.
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"I just want to see people punch vampires in the crotch." LMAO

I LOVED this episode so much that I watched it twice.
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Vasiliy is a great new addition to the team and can't believe the hacker's friend made it haha. Would've been cool to see the vampire SWAT team again.
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yeah that was funny, how they were all watching her bob & weave. the looks on their faces, was hilarious. like...well i'll be damned. hah
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Does anyone know what The Master said to Abraham while he waited outside the Kwiki-Mart?
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i rarely understand what they mumble. i didnt feel like rewinding it.
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I think he said ''you'll be sorry" or something like that.
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This was so tense and sooo good. I loved this episode. Just like Tim said, focused.

I don't always cry of happiness after a tv episode, but when I do, it's usually when vampires get their heads blown off.
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Tim Surette one mistake the header says: The Strain S01E10 but it's S01E08!
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And the worse thing is you posted that 21 hours ago and nobody had changed it still.
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"Aim for their head" But why !? Isn't the worm in their thorax ? One got its head smashed and he looked fine.
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Vasiliy asked about the rules for how to kill a zombie, and Setrakian answered: "Brainstem must be destroyed, or severed from the spinal cord." Maybe the show assumes that a shot through the brain destroys the brainstem, even though that's not always the case.
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"Anyone, even someone who once played a Hobbit, can be killed fast." Oh Tim you make me laugh.. But I gotta disagree with your feelings on Vasily's side story having no impact on the overall story line, esp with the events of this episode taken into account. I agree Fet's scene with his father was kinda boring and pointless, but I feel like all the scenes with him in episodes 1-7 have been establishing him as a rough but good guy.. If he had turned up only in episode 8, I feel like Fet shooting Jim in the face like that would have left some ambiguity as to whether he was a good guy or a psycho.. I for one appreciated a lil set up with him, but some of the time spent focusing on other side stories has bogged the series down a bit. I only tolerate Gus's story cuz I know what's coming lol, same with bitchface Kelly.
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What I like about Vasily is that we know him better than Eph or Nora ever will. Makes him "one of us" in the same way we'll never be "one of them".
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The hacker should absolutely die - her betrayal is sooo much worse than Samw..Jim's
He really had no idea what he was doing or the consequences it would have,
while messing up 911 alone, even for a mere 24 hours would Any Normal day kill hundreds maybe thousands of innocent people.
Hate it whenever any hacker does something like that - "hack this, get paid, ask no questions" and can't figure out that anyone that pays you whatever sum to disrupt a city/nation's infrastructure is baaaaaad people..
What I'm trying to say is, dumb bitch..
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Hacker Chick didnt actually betray anyone, she wanted to "stick it to the man".
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I hear what you're saying, I do - but I didn't mean she betrayed anyone personally, not really - more that she sold out "John and Jane Doe" her human peers, the ordinary person whom on That particular day, in desperate need of a fire truck, don't get one, and is therefore burned to death in their house.
My point is - you'd have to be incredibly naive, young, or just plain stupid to not see the repercussions ones such actions would have.
She seemed bright enough to comprehend what she had done, and just seemed amused by it.
She called her "friend" bitch for leaving her, but I actually completely understand that.
If a "friend" of mine crippled 112(our emergency number) I'd probably knock em out.
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Tim, what does the functionality of gas pumps have to do with phone lines and Internet access?

As much as I like the show's willingness / eagerness to explain some of the science behind the creatures, it failed when mentioning UVC, which is completely absorbed by the ozone and upper atmospheric layers. Lots of UVA and some UVB reaches ground level but not UVC. But that's okay, at least they're trying, unlike virtually all other shows of this ilk.

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Doesn't validating a credit card on the pump require an Internet or other data connection to the bank's computers? If it didn't work in the shop, why would if work on the pump? Happy to let it slide for the comedy moment, myself.
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Not sure why uv lights were plan F, they just waited around so more shows up. Could have went with the guy who had the truck the first place, after at most 2 minutes of preparation, i bet he would have preferred that plan too.
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They had to charge the lights, and the electricity to the gas station was taken out pretty soon after they became trapped. Those use a lot of power quickly and with the amount of charge time they received I'm surprised they lasted as long as they did.. I think this is why they wanted to try and find other options before resorting to using only the lights to escape.. I have no fucking idea why the strigoi didn't kill Hacker bitch's lover yet did kill the bread truck guy, but that line by Setrekian about the strigoi being there for them, well I'm sure that's true but why would it stop them from killing and turning every human there? That was kinda dumb. I agree that it seemed to take them a very long time to get out of there though.
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The girl was moving fast, weaving and dodging. It would have taken speed and effort to catch her, which the new vamps don't have. The bread truck guy wasn't fast and went directly to his truck, which was predictable and made it easy for a vamp to be at the truck waiting for him.
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Re: the girl that got away- In World War Z, the mythology was that they could sense disease/cancer, etc. in people and wouldn't feel on the sick. Perhaps it's something like that.
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The bread truck guy didnt run away. The drones need to feed so they fed on him. I don't think he made it 15 feet away from the entrance.
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Yeah your probably right, and bread truck guy did just kind of stop at a certain point and let himself get eaten lol.
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The Master wanted Abraham dead. Thats why the drones didnt chase the girl. Abraham dies & The (fledgling) Resistance is crippled in its infancy.
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Understood but they did go after the bread truck guy.
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This show just keeps getting better and better. First we get vampire ninjas in hoodies and then this episode we get a new female actress that hopefully isn't as much of a moron as Nora and then Del Toro did what Peter Jackson couldn't do in the 120hrs or so of LOTR and that is to kill Samwise Gamgee. Excellently done sir. I freaking love Vasily for that and Vasily and Frey are awesome together. Keep it going, lets kill off Nora, the wife and the wife's boyfriend and really cut out the dead weight.
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I take it you didn't like Lord of the Rings?

I agree for the most part. I considered quitting early on, but episodes like this make me glad I didn't. Don't agree with some of Tim's complaints about Vasily in the past. I've always thought Vasily was an interesting character, even when he wasn't part of the main story, but now that he is, he's even more awesome. It helps that he is played by an actor I like. Him and Abraham are definitely the smart ones. Loved when Eph said he wouldn't hesitate to shoot him and Fret responded with "That's the spirit." That is bad ass, and that should be the way.

This is very off-topic, but I think he would have made a way better Sabretooth than Liev Schrieber in Wolverine Origins. Instead, they stuck him as blob in that movie. Movie would've sucked ass anyway, but still.

Do you think the hacker chick is as dumb as Andrea, like Tim suggests? Maybe she did some questionable things, but nothing on an Andrea level of stupid. I do agree with his other TWD comparisons. Would Abraham compare to anyone? Sure as hell not Hershel or Dale.

I don't hate Sean Astin like you do, but he was a flat character on here, and someone who would've potentially dragged the story down. Now, if they can just get rid of Eph's family. lol
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Actually I loved LOTR, read the books when I was a kid and watched all of the movies several times, even the extended versions and whatever in the hell Jackson is doing to the Hobbit. I even liked Samwise in the books. But dammit I couldn't make it through half of the Fellowship without wanting them to kill Sam. And Frodo for that matter.

I agree with you about Vasily and Abraham, I do disagree with Tim that he is Daryl. Vasily is Shane or what Shane should of / could of been. He is simply made for this apocalypse. But the interaction between Vasily and Eph after he shot Samwise was spectacular.

I think Liev made a decent Sabertooth, I just think it was written horribly and shot even worse. There was no saving that movie. But I do agree that he as an actor is very underrated, I have never not liked a character that he portrayed. He should be in better roles. And kind of where you are coming from, I think he would have been better as Bane in The Dark Knight Rises not just because of his height, but I think he would have been far more imposing than Hardy and his tiny 5'8'' self.

Hacker chick, dumb or not is key to setting the internet back right. So she is useful and she is smart enough to keep herself in the gas station, so there is that. I doubt that there would be much effort required to push her into being a badass in her own right. Plus in the face of all of that she was taking swigs out of that 40oz and that was kind of cool.

The thing is that I don't actually hate Astin. I liked him when he was on 24 and in several other of his roles. I just didn't like the portrayal of Sam and didn't like this character. You have to admit, by the end of LOTR you wanted to toss both Sam and Frodo into Mt. Doom. Plus he does get a huge pass for being in Goonies which was my all time favorite movie for the majority of my youth.
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I agree with most of this, just a few things.

You're totally right about what Durand could have been as Bane. I like Tom Hardy, but I think Chris Nolan tried to shove down our throats that a 5'8 guy can be so imposing. He really just wanted to work with Tom Hardy. Then again, any big actor could have probably been Bane. As for Sabretooth, he is supposed to be much bigger than Wolverine. Liev was good, but he wasn't imposing when next to the more jacked up Jackman. Durand would've been better for that part in any X-Men movie.

As for the Vasily character, I actually agree with Tim's Daryl comparison, because I think Daryl was more made for the apocalypse than Shane. They both prefer to work alone, they are more than capable of handling themselves, with or without a group, and they both occasionally scoff at their group for their stupidity. You are right than Shane could have been something more, and he never opened the door to a swarm of zombies. Well, he did open a barn full of zombies, but they were prepared. I think they are both good comparisons though.

Sam and Frodo were annoying, but I didn't hate them too much. Ever since Michael Rapaport on Justified, if I hear you criticize an actor, I just assume you hate him/her. lol

Just curious, what actors/actresses like Michael, no matter what role they are in, can you not stand?
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No, don't watch Manhattan. I know what it's about though. Only show I'm watching right now is The Strain. Next week though Boardwalk Empire starts again, and another show that I don't feel like ranting about starts too.

I know this is subjective, but I don't agree at all with Billy Bob. He was fucking fantastic in Fargo, and one of the best villains I've seen on TV in a long time.
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Well it isn't hate exactly. I just have no use for them. Now that would transition to hate when/if they are thrust in a role or a character that I particularly like, such as, some moronic casting director casting Tatum as Gambit.

And no I am not a fan of Jolie. I can tolerate her but she is tremendously overrated and yes Green can act circles around her. Speaking of Jolie. Also I would have to include Billy Bob Thorton. He, for me is to the point where I just can't watch anything he is in. Despite how good people say it is, I will never be able to watch Fargo. I like Brad Pitt as well, I think when he gets a decent movie he pulls it off well. Though I don't care for some of his bigger movies, especially whatever World War Z was trying to be.

I agree with you on Depp, he has kind of burned any and all currency he once had with me. His rendition of Ichabod Crane in their version of Sleepy Hollow was good and is another of one of my favorite movies. I can also relate to your dislike of Ethan Hawke. I have never really seen much of Spurlock or Jared to have an opinion on them.

Schnieder and Spade can say stuff like that all they want. There are plenty of average looking guys that can act very well that do a great job in their respective roles. What I can't stand is that neither would have a career, or well much of one without Sandler continually casting them in everything he does. And I completely agree with you on Sandler. I miss late 90's early 00's Sandler movies.

As for Zooey, ostly because she is overrated and I don't think she is funny and I truly think that if you cut off her bangs permanently, she would never be cast in anything again.

Oh and hey, have you caught any of Manhattan since it has been running. I was wondering your opinion of it. I really like it.
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Damn, you hate a lot of people! I definitely couldn't name that many. I actually agree with a lot of them, though some I do not.

I don't think you are big on Angelina Jolie, because you would often bring her up as a lesser Eva Green when we discuss Green. I like Angelina though. I think Brad Pitt is really good too.

There are some actors who I used to enjoy a lot but now I can't stand them. I have a hard time buying anything from Johnny Depp now. Will Smith used to be a huge draw, but he's gotten incredibly annoying, especially since he is trying to push his not too talented son. Unless it's a really good movie, I can't stand Ethan Hawke. He's not really an actor, but I don't really like Morgan Spurlock, or Jared the Subway guy. lol

You nailed a few like Julie Roberts, Tatum, most of the FF cast, Schneider. Schneider will often say critics hate his movies and shows because they are mad that an average looking guy like him made it. Keep thinking that Rob...

I usually can't stand Sandler nowadays, but I've seen him nail a few roles really well. True Blood has kind of ruined Anna Paquin for me, not that I was a big fan of hers anyway. Always thought she was miscast as Rogue.

Never could figure out why you hate Zooey so much. I haven't seen her in much, but I never minded her.
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Tom Hardy is a great actor. I am not sure about him with Nolan though. I didn't like Rises or Inception.

As for Liev, I don't think any one in that movie took it as seriously as Jackman did especially in regards to preparation. I mean they freaking cast Will I Am in it. How serious could they have been.

Yikes, actors that I dislike whole heartedly in any role. Damn this could be a long long list. But here are a few, some are probably pretty obvious like Kristen Stewart, Channing Tatum, Jennifer Lopez, Lohan, etc.

But some of the other ones; the whole cast of Entourage. Scott Caan (I have never liked him in anything he is in, which is a surprising contrast to his father which I like pretty much everything he is in). Gwynyth Paltrow, Jennifer Aniston, I didn't really ever like Mathew McConaughey until True Detective. The whole cast of Twilight except for Anna Kendrick. Julia Roberts. Though I have seen way too many of her movies for other reasons, Jessica Alba. David Spade. Owen Wilson. Most of the cast of the Fast and Furious movies. Mark Walhberg with the exception of Lone Survivor. Stallone, I never liked Rocky, or Rambo or anything the man has been in ever. Mickey Rourke. Jaime Kennedy. Rob Schneider. Pretty much the whole cast of all of the Transformers movies. Chris Klein. Kutcher. Speaking of LOTR, Orlando Bloom. Meghan Fox. Sarah Jessica Parker. Renee Zellweger. Tea Leoni. Cynthia Nixon.

That is just off the top of my head.

Oh and Zooey Freaking Deschanel. Which is tough because Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is one of my all time favorite movies. Particularly the extended version.
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sometime dead weight lingers indefinitely..

this episode targetted The walking dead's diehard loyalists, and robbed them of their very last excuse.

you aint seen nothin yet, because there's no vamps that have even two weeks of maturity. (except Ike and TM)

Of course Quinlan's been around since the days of Claudius and Caligula.

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Well just the mere fact that Vasily, Eph and even Nora have learned something in 8 episodes puts them above the TWD group that keeps making the same mistakes over and over and over again. It truly was a well done episode and I can see this show eclipse TWD in many ways.
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Season 5 trailer looks good. A lot has happened since I last watched.
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Trailers can be misleading. For me, they have a lot of fix and some of the stuff is just so stupid that I can't believe that they are trying it.
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This episode was awesome! There was irony, larceny, a siege, controlled vampires, and Jim finally got what he deserved for helping Eichorst! And if that hacker doesn't now fix what she's done, then she deserves the same! I was giving her a pass for being used, and not knowing what was going on until now.

There is no way this was a filler episode; Vasily showed intelligence by where the CDC guys met up with him. He's been appropriately schooled in vampire killing techniques, and will be a fantastic ally! The hacker now knows that she needs to "clear" the internet, and the CDC guys now knows there is no such thing as early intervention. Oh, and Abraham now has several successors to his mission. All I needed was popcorn to improve my viewing experience.
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The show might not be amazing compared to others, but to me its clearly better than all the other summer shows, as I find myself really looking forward to it coming on more than anything else. Don't cancel it, FX!
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You don't have to worry about them canceling it anytime soon. This was on TV.com a couple of weeks back:

"FX's vampire outbreak will continue to spread: The network has renewed horror drama The Strain for a 13-episode second season that will debut in 2015.

The move comes as no surprise, as The Strain is cable's top new series of 2014 among adults 18 to 49. The first episode drew 12.7 million viewers, making it the most-watched series premiere in FX's history."
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12.7 million on fx? Wow
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Thanks! Good to know :)
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Nope this is the one that broke the camels back, I couldn't even make it to the end of the episode. "If you go outside you're going to die" Oh well I'll do that then...Bye bye from the dvr queue...
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I hope you find what your looking for somewhere else, good luck.
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Loved it, definitely the best episode so far. Vasily is awesome.
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I want a Zompire Hobbit! That's all I want
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a zombit? hobpire?
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