The Walking Dead

Season 2 Episode 4

Cherokee Rose

Aired Sunday 9:00 PM Nov 06, 2011 on AMC
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Episode Summary

The survivors have to deal with a huge walker that has fallen into one of the Greene Family's wells. The search for Sophia continues with Daryl finding a sign. Glenn and Maggie go into the town for some supplies, but end up doing more than just scavanging for medicine.Rick and Hershel have a discussion over God's role in the world and about how long Rick's group can stay at Hershel's farm. Finally, Lori asks Glenn to bring her a special item which could have grave effects on her family.


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  • Positive

    Saw the well scene coming a mile away. Something that waterlogged isn't structurally sound at all. And I'm torn regarding Lori. While it's wonderful seeing that she's not getting away with her unfaithfulness scott-free, it could easily go the other way into overly shaming her for what was an honest mistake based on the information she had. The focus on lies is a great one, and it'll be great to see the end to Shane's lie play out. And Sophia continues to be a convenient, if forgotten, plot device.moreless
  • 2x04 - Cherokee Rose

    Seeing how the survivors deal with the walker in the well was a laugh even as I cringed for Glenn. Other than that part I was pretty bored by the rest of the episode. And I could careless about Lori's possible pregnancy.
  • White Lies

    Well basically the show is all about lies or hiding the lie. Lorie ask for a pregnancy test, Shane lying at the funeral for Otis last moments. The good show to watch but don't really see no real direction anymore it's like their waiting for something (Writers). The show continues to look for the girl so between episode to episode there is no real time jump made a couple of hours. This is going so slow that they have to put time jumps in this series, but I think the writers don't know what to do or direction to take so playing it safe.moreless
  • Lying through your teeth.

    White lies can take several forms: the blunt one Shane uses to explain himself to Otis's wife during his memorial service - and to Andrea later on - that, ironically, provides less meaning Otis's death so rightfuly deserves and, nevertheless, honors his murder more than it does his murderer's reasons for it.

    White lies can also be small and savvy, like the one Rick uses to encourage his son to get better, a lie Carl easily picks on, for a friend as close as Sophia would've been there by his side should she have already been found.

    White lies can be dumb and clumsy revealed themselves as truth for one Glenn and Maggie and, sometimes, white lies may not be lies at all, like the Cherokee Rose Daryl truly believes bloomed for Carol's suffering.

    Alas white lies, perhaps because they are lies, don't work at all...moreless
  • Dumb Behavior II : Zombitris, irresistible Glenn, predictable Lori subplot, thoughtful connections, optimistic spirit, intriguing rules, smart dialogs (Spoilers)

    And the walker of the week is… Gorezilla ! Their plan to get it out of the well was silly and with Save the Last One, where Daryl and Andrea went for a walk at night, I worry that we will have to endure more stupid situations. I mean the cord is the oldest one trick pony, it always break. So the precious minutes lost to follow Glenn's predictable descent in hell could have been used for something more important. It leads us to his hilarious and sexy escape with Maggie. The awkward way he got laid was well staged and it was obvious Steven Yeun and Lauren Cohan were having fun. Surviving with their characters would make a post apocalyptic world less painful to live in. Moreover their arc was connected to Lori's search for a pregnancy test so even if I saw it coming the writing knows where it's going. In addition her sensual moment with Rick in front of the mirror was similar to the one Glenn and Maggie shared. It proves that there's still hope despite the pessimistic dialogs between Lori and her husband last episode. The slow pace also proved that The Walking Dead excels in all departments, from frightening situations like the horde to heartwarming reunions. They're all together now and only Sophia is missing. But it seems Daryl is on her trail even if it wasn't explicitely stated, a subtlety I'm quite fond of. The hopeful story he told the mother was also quite moving and the rose as beautiful as the landscape Rick and the old man contemplated at the creek. As for their man to man discussion in front of the house it opened a whole new set of possibilities. Shouldn't Rick ask the others what they want to do ? What are the rules to stay ? Covering topics like religion and education issues was also quite enlightening. Last but not least a bold Shane reminded me of Of Mice and Men because the character has reached a certain complexity and makes me uncomfortable. Of course he had to lie but if he hadn't shoot the fat guy well he would just be a pile of bloody meat on the road. Now I only have one question left… How many condoms did Glenn use ? Considering the super bright smile he had on his face I bet on seven, one for each heaven they reached. Naughty survivors !

    Note : This review was first posted on Kritikenstein, my weblog.moreless
Brian Hillard

Brian Hillard

Bloated Well Walker

Guest Star

Melissa McBride

Melissa McBride

Carol Peletier

Recurring Role

IronE Singleton

IronE Singleton


Recurring Role

Scott Wilson

Scott Wilson

Hershel Greene

Recurring Role

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


  • TRIVIA (1)

    • The Cherokee Rose primary time to bloom is in the early spring with bright green leaves. However, the flower is capable of blossoming in the fall under good conditions. Given the condition of the plant Daryl finds, the timeframe of the show is set in the fall.

  • QUOTES (8)

    • Maggie: I'll have sex with you.
      Glenn: Really? Why?
      Maggie: You're asking questions?
      Glenn: I can't, I can't help wondering.
      Maggie: It's not like our options are vast these days. (kisses him) And you're not the only one that's lonely.

    • Dale: (hanging a ham in front of the Well Walker) He's not going for it.
      T-Dog: Maybe 'cause they can't handle no kickin' and screamin' when they try to eat it.
      Lori: He's right. There is a reason the dead didn't come back to life and start raiding our cupboards.

    • T-Dog: You think there is a snowball's chance will actually find that little girl?
      Dale: For the first time in my life, I'm bettin' on the snowball.

    • Hershel: That's something, isn't it? It's good to pause for an occasional reminder.
      Rick: Of what?
      Hershel: Whatever comes to mind. For me it's often God. No thoughts on that?
      Rick: Last time I asked God for a favor and stopped to admire a view, my son got shot. I try not to mix it up with the Almighty anymore. Best we stay out of each others way.
      Hershel: Lori told me your story -- how you were shot, the coma. Yet you came out of it somehow. You did not feel God's hand in yours?
      Rick: At that moment? No, I did not.
      Hershel: In all the chaos you found your wife and boy. Then he was shot and he survived. That tells you nothing?
      Rick: It tells me God's got a strange sense of humor.

    • T-Dog: (after bashing in a walker's head) Good thing we didn't do anything stupid like shoot it.

    • Carl: Hey, I'm like you now. We've both been shot. Isn't that weird?
      Rick: Yeah, I think your mother would rather hear we got the same eyes. So let's keep that between us. Since in you're in the club now, you get to wear the hat. Didn't you know?

    • Carol: A flower?
      Daryl: It's a Cherokee Rose. The story is that when American soldiers were moving Indians off their land on the Trail of Tears, the Cherokee mothers were grieving and crying so much 'cause they were losing their little ones along the way from exposure and disease and starvation. A lot of them just disappeared. So the elders, they said a prayer; asked for a sign to uplift the mothers' spirits, give them strength and hope. The next day this rose started to grow where the mothers' tears fell. I'm not fool enough to think there's any flowers blooming for my brother. But I believe this one bloomed for your little girl.

    • Shane: We were about done, almost out of ammo. We were down to pistols by then, I was limping, it was bad with my ankle all swollen up. 'We got to save the boy'. That's what he said. He gave me his backpack and said he would take the rear and cover me. When I looked back… If not for Otis, I'd have never made it out alive. And that goes for Carl too. Otis…he saved us both.

  • NOTES (4)

    • This episode was cited by the CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) for it's "teaching moments".
      Rule #3- Clean water is zombie-free water. Be careful with your water supplies. After any disaster, make sure your ready available water sources are clean.

    • Viewership: 6.29 million (top cable show for the weekend of Nov. 4-6)

    • Locations: Along Rt. 85, Senoia, GA and Sharpsburg, GA
      The abandoned house that Daryl searches is located on W. McIntosh Road in Rover, Georgia.

    • Original International Air Dates:
      United Kingdom: November 11, 2011 on FX/FX HD
      Sweden: November 27, 2011 on TV11
      Finland: June 24, 2012 on Fox
      Slovakia: July 18, 2012 on JOJ Plus
      Czech Republic: October 15, 2012 on Prima COOL
      Turkey: October 28, 2012 on CNBC-e


    • Cherokee Rose: The title of the episode refers to the state flower of Georgia (Rosa laevigata). In legend, the flower was created by the tears of Cherokee mothers that were grieving for the loss of children.