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The Walking Dead S04E11: "Claimed"


I don't ask for a lot from The Walking Dead: 1.) Make me feel something, 2.) Scare the piss out of me, and 3.) Give me an idea of where we're going. And obviously 4.) Make sure there are zombies, lots and lots of zombies, but that should go without saying. The first two episodes of this half-season had bits and pieces of those first three items, but only in small doses, and it certainly didn't employ them with a high-enough level of competence. So I was forced to heckle them from afar like a jerk. 

Well, I'll shut my trap now, as I quite liked "Claimed." It was split into three stories that covered each of my desired elements, making it easily the best episode of the back half of Season 4, even though it was also the quietest. "Claimed" is the kind of blueprint The Walking Dead could use for a better future. 

Because the group is still shattered into a handful of pieces after the hoedown at the prison, The Walking Dead still has to pick and choose which stories to focus on until enough wandering around brings everybody together again. That means individual episodes can't cover every character. "Claimed" turned to Maggie and said "Sorry, you're riding the pine!" (Ditto for Bob and Sasha.) And Tyreese, Carol, and Dumb and Dumber got to take a day off. And Beth and Daryl's game of silver lining versus just the raincloud was postponed for at least another week. That left us with Rick, Carl, and Michonne, plus Glenn, Tara, and their new military friends. Screen time is becoming more precious than ammo in this world, and until everyone reunites for a big group hug, the stories will shrink and we'll see smaller micro-arcs instead of the larger group dynamics of an ensemble drama. (I'm not totally sure it'll work, but if The Walking Dead handles things like it did in "Claimed," it should be alright.)

So what did "Claimed" do? It split up Carl, Michonne, and Rick—a group that just got together—into two different tales: "Carl and Michonne the supply runners," and "Rick Grimes in Home Alone." I feared we were headed for a palm-meets-face situation, but both stories were pretty good! We'll start with Carl and Michonne because they've become the Abbott & Costello of the group, one of the series' best pairings. I'm not sure why, but there's always little bit of magic when these two get together. Remember when they retrieved the Grimes' family photo in "Clear"? They embarked on a similar outing in "Claimed," with emotional walls slowly collapsing between two characters who have a tendency to hide behind them (while that can be said about pretty much every character on this show, Michonne clearly trumps Carl in the category).  


Michonne and Carl's adventure began with breakfast cereal and an argument over the deliciousness of soy milk, which chiseled away at whatever barrier Carl had built to forget that Judith was DEAD (she's not dead). It continued with a demented game 20 Questions that focused on Michonne's past life (one kid, Andre Anthony). And the wrecking ball hit hard when Michonne found a family of corpses that appeared to have perished via murder-murder-murder-murder-suicide, with four children carefully positioned in their beds after being put out of their misery and a mother painting the wall behind her with her brains, though that's just my interpretation. Ugh, just thinking about that actually going down makes my heart weep, and I'll never get tired of the untold stories left behind by those who've died. But the real kicker was Carl telling Michonne that maybe Judith and Andre Anthony were playing together in the real afterlife (or maybe they're just zombies playing house somewhere). It was a common thread—the loss of a tiny loved one—that united two very, very different people, and dammit, it was sweet. There's that "make me feel something" component that I was asking for. 

In the meantime, Rick was just looking to chillax with some Jack London when a bunch of human jackals broke into the house and pinned him inside. I don't know who these guys were or how they survived for so long seeing how stupid and pissy they were to each other, but they served their purpose as (mostly) faceless intruders putting pressure on Rick to think fast and not die. Their arrival didn't really serve any importance except to make us pee a little, and thanks to plenty of tension and some near misses, my jorts got a little moist. Anyway, it was enough "scare the piss out of me"—even if the threat was a simple human one—so check that box off.

But remember how I said the home invaders were stupid? Well, they were really stupid. Not only were they choking each other out over a BED (in what was surely a two- or three-bedroom home, with at least some comfy couches to supplement the "kids' beds"), but some of them were willing to move on while the rest of their party was either unconscious or in the bathroom. And what about that dude who was in the bathroom? Not only did he not say a word when Rick barged in (how about locking the door next time?), but he was sitting on the toilet with his pants up and his shoes off. What mysterious bodily function or private-time restroom activity was this man engaged in? Was he clipping his toenails? Was he having himself a healthy cry? Does he have some perverse fetish that involves smelling his own feet? The world needs to know about this weird man! Get me Scott Gimple, the writer of this episode, on the phone! 


And in our third story, Tara and Glenn rode along with the season's new characters. Let's meet 'em officially, shall we? First there's Sergeant Abraham Ford, who should be your new favorite character already. And I do mean "new favorite character," not "favorite new character," because I LOVE THIS DUDE. He's a realist, probably to a fault, and better yet, he's played by Southland's Michael Cudlitz. As soon as he said his first line at the end of last week's episode, he became The Walking Dead's best actor. Man, this show needed him. With Ford was Rosita Espinoza, the woman wearing the sexy army girl Halloween costume who is probably zombie chow, and Dr. Eugene Porter, a scientist who knew what caused this whole mess in the first place. 

That last detail... pretty darned big! I suppose I should say that The Walking Dead has now made it past where I've read in the source comics so I don't know how anything turns out, but the idea that might get some answers regarding how the zombie apocalypse happened presents a new goal for the series. I've always assumed The Walking Dead wouldn't ever search for a cause or a cure, and that it would be a never-ending zombie horror. But a character knowing the cause is the first step to knowing the cure, and this might be the biggest step The Walking Dead has ever taken toward setting an eventual end date. Unless Eugene is full of baloney—then it's back to everbody wandering around and watching Rick grumble. Anyway, the cause of the outbreak presents a big question that The Walking Dead can answer. It gave me an idea—or at least the illusion—of where we are going, and that's worth more than a hundred zombie headshots. An idea of where we're going! The trifecta is complete. 

Of course, knowing this show's pace, getting there could be a long way off, if it happens at all. At least we have The Terminus to look forward to in the meantime! Tyreese, Carol, Lizzie, Myka, and Judith are on their way there. Rick, Michonne, and Carl are headed there, too. And Glenn, Tara, Abraham, Rosita, and Eugene were following some train tracks, so maybe they'll end up there as well. 

One of the reasons I stopped reading the comics is that eventually, the story was more of the same, over and over again. That kind of repetition is a better model for a comic book than a television show, and I think that if The Walking Dead: TV Edition wants to survive, it might have to adopt a more traditional TV model. Of course, we're talking about the biggest show on television right now, so there's a better chance that a real zombie apocalypse will happen before AMC ever cancels it. But I'm hearing more and more people say that they're quitting The Walking Dead, and I'm hearing fewer and fewer people are talk about how excited they are to sit down and watch it. I regularly find myself going back and forth, but then a well-written episode like "Claimed" pulls me back in with the belief that The Walking Dead can still tell interesting stories. Let's hope it continues.



NOTES

– Seriously, who wakes up in a zombie apocalypse and puts on short shorts, hoop earrings, and a midriff-baring shirt then puts her hair in pig tails? I could never trust a person who looked that during the rise of the undead. But a dirty wifebeater and a handlebar mustache? I'm following that guy.

– I'm still trying to wrap my head around Michonne's transformation. The Walking Dead is eager to spill the beans on her character's backstory after keeping a lid on it for so long, and that's resulted in a much more personable Michonne who pours Easy Cheese into her mouth. I'm not sure her current arc qualifies as character development; it's more like the show is taking her in a different direction. The Walking Dead's writers' room probably had "HUMANIZE MICHONNE" underlined in big red marker on the whiteboard. Or maybe she's just comfortable around Carl? Either way, it's worth noting that Gimple also wrote "Clear," which was Michonne's other big, big episode

– I loved Carl's story about his friend being allergic to dairy and how he almost threw up drinking soy milk. It was a character moment that made him feel real. Now if only Chandler Riggs could sell it better...

– So, last week zombies were attracted to fire, and this week they were attracted to Mylar balloons? They're getting dumber as the show progresses.

– Eugene's explanation of how he killed the truck: "A fully amped-up state and an ignorance of rapid-fire weapons." Very nice, Eugene.


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AIRED ON 4/3/2016

Season 6 : Episode 16

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"who wakes up in a zombie apocalypse and puts on short shorts, hoop earrings, and a midriff-baring shirt then puts her hair in pig tails?" I'll tell you why...Hispanic American Lara Croft is why!! So hot!
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Guys, really? When Glenn asked Eugene what happened, what caused everything, Eugene replied something like: it's confidentional. And there is no reaction from Glenn. WTF? You spent year or more fighting this and when some fat idiot (who appears to have all the answers) says: it's confidentional - you just give up? LOL! Stupid, at best.
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So why is Rosita dressed like GI Hoe?
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I know personal grooming is difficult during a zombie apocalypse but a scientist with a mullet? Nope. Can't take him seriously. He looks too much like Kenny Powers.
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Really didn't like the last two episodes. I can't help it, but I really REALLY don't like the two little girls. They feel so out of place and forced. Kinda liked bunnykilling psychohead Lizzie because it presents a new kind of unpredictable danger and a setup for (if done right) some interesting plotpoints, but I just can't get around the 'overacting child-syndrome'.

That being said, I was fairly satisfied with 'Claimed'. It went back to the basics by focussing more on the threats that come from human nature rather than just being sneaked upon by a loudly moaning zombie that for some reason no one ever sees coming. That's what made the first season great for me: It was about humans, not zombies. Having read the comics, I might have an idea about where the show is going, and if they are true to them, some awesome surprises are coming!
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As much as I've always looked forward to this show I'm starting to worry. Season after season we hoped for something more, but now I'm wondering if it peaked in the beginning of the first past of this season. Ever since the Governor came back it's been going down hill. Now that it's back it's hard to look forever to each episode if we're being forced to sit through Beth's narration or someone shooting at a truck facing away from the zombies he's shooting. I hope it gets better but I'm starting to think it won't.
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I'm getting pretty tired of all the characters (main and support) being so painfully dumb. More than that, these shambling zombies are becoming ridiculously easy to outsmart (e.g. distracted by fire... seriously?!).

The zombie apocalypse universe is essentially redundant now because the zombies only pose a threat when you stand still with your back to them staring blankly at the middle distance thinking about how much you miss crazy cheese.
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I didn´t enjoy it as much as last week, I don´t know wgy, but it seems a bit...empty
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I was so excited when they met up with those new characters who seemed to be after a cause and possibly a cure. It made it seem like the series could finally get a real plot, but no... They had to follow stupid Glenn to find Maggie... Gosh, this show will just go on and on in the same manner it always has - survive and nothing more. What's the point? If that was all there is, if that hopelessness was all there was, why bother?
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Were you paying attention though? Their ride was busted (I was surprised they weren't more pissed about that though), and they didn't have much of a choice. They were safer with two more capable zombie killers, and they even vocally agreed that once they found a suitable automobile they'd be back on their way (this may not go as planned obviously).

I mean, it may annoy you, but it makes sense and stuff at least.
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I know the truck got busted, BUT they could have walked in the direction they were headed, in stead of going BACK. They could have forced Glenn if they wanted to. I know it wouldn't have helped or worked, but it was annoying nonetheless and Glenn was annoying. I wanted that storyline more than I want to see the lovebirds reunite and be boring together again. They were better characters before they got together, especially Glenn.
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Loved Michonne this episode...she really started to open up. She looked different...she was laughing and having fun with Carl...
Was exiting scene with Rick under the bed....for a moment i thought he would get caught....but thank god, he got away...
Like you said in the review...not much happened, but in the same time a lot happened.

Glen and Tara...first of all, i don't believe for a second that that guy is a doctor who can solve the issue...he looked like a idiot!!
Second i thought that Glenn was really strong in this scene. He stood his ground and now they are even following him...

Loved the end on the tracks..they are all going the same way, so hopefully soon they will be reunited...
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One surprising thing I (we all) learned in this episode is that MICHONNE is FUNNY. She is a revelation, and nobody can tell me that when she first appeared with Andrea, or while she had those malicious looks at The Governor, or later on her free lodging at The Hostel Prison that Michonne besides been a close relative to The Bride (Kill Bill?) she could also been a clown. Not the best episode, but Michonne Funny made it worth watching.

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Disgusting! The pic i mean.
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Well, Michonne was trying to be funny. Give her that ;)
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I thought Rick was going crazy for a sec and I suddenly have a craving for crazy cheese.
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No one calling that the home intruders were part of Rick's imagination/daydream? Okay, I'll bite. The timing was kinda off. Michonne start asking about their next plan, Rick hesitate, and suddenly boom, convenient reason to move on. That's why the toilet guy had his pants on. Its all in Rick's head.
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That's an idea. But he was holding the uzi when he rejoined Michonne and Carl.
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More Daryl......seriously, are we being rationed now just to make Rick more appealing? Because, trust me, it ain't gonna happen on my watch,
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If I've been through what they've been through for 1.5 years and met someone who claims to know the cause, I would ask him what it was????
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How the hell did Rick get his bleached white T-Shirt so dirty in just a few hours, most of which he spent sleeping on a clean bed? Dusty sure, but it looked like A Walker vomited on him. He's done the long hair and scraggly beard thing. I'd kind of like to see him Clean Cut again.
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Dr. Eugene: finally somebody with all the answers. You can trust him completely! After all, he's smarter than us. And Abraham is da man! As for Rosita's outfit, well, I guess that's one of the things that work in the comics, but whose practicality you start wondering in live action. Visually, shes an easily identifiable character though, which is a good thing in a show with so many characters that come and go.
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I am still enjoying the show... so I'm good!

That Dr. Eugenie seems like an idiot to me not exactly with Asperger's or similar as somebody mentioned. Intelligent people can sometimes be just "jerks" you know. The most disturbing thing is when intelligent people are "jerks" when they are young and when they are old they have not changed...

Emotional intelligence in (my very personal) opinion is something you learn and practice, some people just "opt out"...
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Mr. Surette. I loved your review! I agree on everything and thought the Dumb and Dumber nickname was the best of all. It is very clear now that you don't like Chandler Riggs, but maybe he will make a michonne like character turn, but then in acting. Maybe his character is just not written very realistic as in how a kid develops in a time of zombies. Wouldn't a normal kid play cowboy and indian, but then with real bullets and zombies? Resulting in an early dead or do kids who play the cowboy ever die?!

Anyway, I hope you were as sad as me that the writers didn't pick up on my comment on using more napalm in the morning. With introducing Ford, they really don't have an excuse not too. NOT??

ok, so I'm confused...maybe can you use it for your voting thing next week...on a scale to zero to 10...how f*ckable is pigtails? or "Marry", "F*ck" or "Throw of a cliff"....Did I just go to far?
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I was reading somewhere and someone was pretty convinced that Abraham is the Governor's brother. Hmm wouldn't that be interesting?
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This episode was a huge improvement. After watching it I was intrigued enough, that I decided to read some TWD comic spoilers to see where the story is heading.
Glad I did it, because it's enough for me to quit this show. If they decide to do the same thing as in the comics it will be the same formula AGAIN. I'll keep reading if they decide to take a new path but from the interviews I've read it seems they will be adapting the main plots. There's things that might work in a comic perfectly but TV is just a different medium.
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Mostly enjoyed that. The main thing that put a downer on it was seeing the preview for next week, which looks like a full Beth & Daryl episode...
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A random collection of thoughts.

Call me evil but it's a bit disappointing Judith is still alive, because not only does it make everything Carl is going through feel a bit hollow and pointless, but...man babies drag down the narrative of a show. One character or another is going to be permanently tethered to that kid from now until the show's end, and that's frustrating (though I'm glad Beth has some time off to have a few new plotlines).

I've said it before, but I really hope Maggie and Glenn get some plotlines that don't involve each other in some way soon. I love them both, I like their romance, it just feels like it sort of consumes everything about them. I struggle to describe Maggie in any way that doesn't refer to Glenn, and that's depressing because I really like her actress and I'd like to see her grapple with some other kind of dilemma.

I actually don't mind Chandler Riggs. He's not flawless but you'd be hard up to get a really fantastic actor at his age who can sell it...especially at 14, there's kind of a black hole of actors between say 12 and 17 where they all disappear while they're attacked by puberty. If the series had started at this point in the timeline he'd probably be played by a "young looking" 18 year old (easier on the child labour laws too!).

There's definitely a character overhaul going on with Michonne, but I'm totally buying it. In retrospect it works to say that since her introduction she's been grieving and angry, but recent events have gotten her to place where she can talk about it (or as she said to Rick, she's "done taking breaks"). It's a bit unclear specifically what triggered it though...maybe returning to being alone again, after having a taste of a community.

There's something really interesting about Tara, at first it felt a bit random that she's still around but I'm really liking her (in a moment of Y chromosome venting, I also think she's way more attractive than Combat Hotpants). It makes me wonder how much the Governor's return was, amongst other things, a vehicle to introduce her, or if she just intrigued the writers and they decided to keep her around.
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Just wondering, they all live with the "Walkers" for like, 2-3 years now...
Shouldn't people know how to fight and defend better?
You'd think they have developed some kick-ass skills by now, right?
At least fire a weapon, come on!
Loved the show but they should make the characters tougher.
One last thing, because the Walkers are so slow..... they're not scary.




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According to Andrew Lincoln's interview on this recent episode, it's been about 1 1/2 years since the Z. A. went down. Some people are just not fighters and those people would only survive by luck or by being with someone with really good skills like Abraham or Daryl.
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Hey writers, you think we believe you would kill Rick off at this point? Yawn... Knowing Rick would not die in there removes any sense of danger... it's like Star Trek no name red shirts going on away missions and not coming back... only there was no red shirt, only the captain... I hope the story lines merge soon...
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Rosita makes me think I'm 14 again.
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I for one, love every episode of the Walking Dead. It's not my favorite show, but it's definitely one of them. It entertains me every week, and I'm really not understanding the bullcrap complaints that some people come up with about this show. The complaints that get on my nerves the most is easily when it comes to Michonne, who has been my favorite character ever since she stepped on screen.

She has many respectable qualities, with brutal honesty being her best quality to me. She keeps things real, and doesn't really let people get too close, with the exception of Carl. I also love how she mostly keeps people at at distance, because the fact of the matter is, she doesn't have to be everyone's confidant, or best friend. She just sees the world as the ultra-dangerous place it is and keeps her guard up. If that makes her a "boring or unsympathetic" character in hater's eyes, then shame on them for judging her like that.

I don't really know what to make of the new characters yet, so I'll keep my guard up with them, especially Eugene. He has this killer calm about him that doesn't say doctor, but more like calculated traitor.
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Carl needs to die, sry for saying that but his aacting skills are horrible. As a kid he could fool us, but right now hes boring and weird lol

As for the new characters, well deserved welcome at least to lara Croft AHAHHAHA ;P
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Saying that the comic is repetitive makes clear that you didnt read much of it.
The tv show is like a zombie who keeps bashing it's own head at the wall when comparing with the comic.
The storylines, the pace, and how the characters are used in the comic are much MUCH more well writen than this show was or could be.
This is proved again and again when every single thing you compliment about the show are elements taken off the comics. Even the new chars.
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One huge flaw taken over from the comics is the locations though. Finding shelter, having a fight, leaving/regrouping, finding shelter, ....rinse & repeat. There's a limited around of cycles you can present that in a TV show.
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I think people just love to hate on the Michonne character in this fandom and I'm not sure why. People complain about Michonne when:
- She is too quiet
- If she talks a lot
- If she shows no emotion
- If she opens up
- If she doesn't smile
- If she smiles
- If she kills zombies in a bad ass way
- If she doesn't kill any zombies she's getting soft
- If she makes no mistakes she's a Mary Sue
- If she does make a mistake, she is losing her edge and getting careless

Can this character catch a break from this fandom? Seriously? I'll admit I didn't really care for the character during most of season 3, but she has become one of my favorites this season. I really can't figure out what people want from her?

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I love Michonne! She and Daryl are my favorites.
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Her character is inconsistent. You give enough examples for that.
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People are complex. Michonne had built walls around herself for a reason, and now she has decided she does not want to be completely walled in (as evidenced by ep 9 "After"). She is evolving. And based on the glimpse we had of her character in her dream sequence, she was once a vibrant and talkative woman. People do not stay the same throughout life. That does not mean they are inconsistent.
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You are stating obvious facts and observations about people in general which I won't argue with. The issue is with the WAY the character is "evolving" - it's a bit clumsy. Almost as if the writers try too hard. There's different ways of achieving it and this isn't really the best.
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Reply to your second reply about having an opinion: Sorry if I sounded like a jack__s. You are entitled to your opinion, of course. I was mainly trying to substantiate Michonne's character evolution this season. I think the writers have handled it better than they did Carol's transformation from the meak caretaker to badazz murderer. That was an abrupt change to me. Of course, it's probable she was covering for Lizzie, but still she went from changing diapers and housekeeping to running out alone amidst walkers to unclog the water pump. Maybe I missed something in that transformation.
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Thanks, buddy will do! Since it's what I obviously need to do in order to have an opinion.
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Michonne made a connection with Carl in Season 3 and began opening up just a little with him and Rick. Then she began to open up a bit with Daryl at the beginning of S4.

Perhaps you can rewrite these episodes and sell them to AMC or post them here for us to read. I would read them!
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"Seriously, who wakes up in a zombie apocalypse and puts on short shorts, hoop earrings, and a midriff-baring shirt then puts her hair in pig tails?"

Don't hate on a sistah who wanna keep it chic n' classy in the ZA.
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Though I am not a fan for how realistic the outfit is for a zombie apocalypse, from what I know about the character's survival skills from the comics...her outfit helps serve it's purpose for survival.
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Please don't let Eugene be another "genius savant or aspberger super eidetic brain" type. Why can't we portray intellect as not being something the always causes Bones Brennan Spencer Reid detachment from social skills syndrome. From his little bit of dialog I'm not getting my hopes up.
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Seriously, who wakes up in a zombie apocalypse and puts on short shorts, hoop earrings, and a midriff-baring shirt then puts her hair in pig tails?

Uhm... A stripper?

I completely agree about the walking dead's need to change on long term. Easier said than done though.
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Strippers can survive the zombie apocalypse too. Not all female survivors have to be housewives, girlfriends or grad students.

If males can survive regardless if they are like Rick or the scoundrells in the house, why not women?
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I guess the point is that her "gear" is about the worst thing you can wear in a life-threatening scenario like a zombie apocalypse with bandits and zombies everywhere and where the chance of infection is higher with more exposure of skin. It's just stupid. Especially considering they're supposed to have some military background.
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@XY. My logic would be to wear shorts in 90+ degree Georgia weather with 90% humidity. The best material for defense against walkers probably is leather (or a suit of armor), but how many people would really wear leather jackets and chaps in the summer in Georgia?

I don't read the TWD comics but I was just making a point about shows or even movies based on comic books, and these new characters are straight from the comics.
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Cultures in Northern Africa and West Asia deal with even higher temperatures and are fully clothed. Most intelligent people that survived for so long would try to get some armor built from junk and cover their vulnerable body parts. Also helps against a sunburn ;)
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A bikini or nothing at all would be the most stupid choice in clothes/gear. Rosita's choice is not far away BUT she thinks she has to keep Abraham horny all the time. If that's a good decision in that sort of environment is another question though.
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@Ir2jules. Ok so because it's based on a comic, we're to deny ANY logic? You can have that view but I'm sure you do understand that it seems a bit "too convenient" for most of the people who don't read them.
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Don't forget that Wonder Woman (another comic character) wore basically a bikini. TWD is based on comic books. Viewers cannot expect it to be totally realistic!

Maybe she is mot comfortable in shorts. I would be.
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Of course they can! A female ( a male also) survivor can come from any occupation I can think of. Maybe not lawyers or tv critics but other than that - sure. It's a combination of brains, constitution and health that makes one's chances in this peculiar scenery of a zombie apocalypse. And Strippers are fit and flexible and clever in handling difficult men. They're perfect.
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Finally they've reintroduced the 'science' plot. I was waiting for that to happen however am a bit weary of this sanctuary for all destination they all seem to be heading to. I know this comparison is totally uncalled for but I can help but feel this may be heading in the same direction Falling Skies did (which really sucked). We obviously can't have another Governor like plot line so my guess is that the characters are heading towards a new world order....? Or are they reserving that for when they reach Washington?
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I don't think Sanctuary will be a utopia. I wish they would all meet up (miraculously, of course--ha! ha!) and head to D.C. together.
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A good episode, But poor Glen! did this guy piss off the writers or what? Like Arya in GOT they just put this poor character thru hell and back again! with the sickness then he ends up alone with a girl his wife is not going to want to meet!!!! lol love it, bring it on baby!
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Earlier today I was reading through the comments. I like to read the review, ruminate awhile, write my comments, and then read through and comment on what others think. But I had to stop today. Some people are talking about the what happens with the new storyline in the comics. Those are spoilers and they can ruin the experience of people who want to watch and discover what happens for themselves. Can we please agree not to disseminate information that could spoil it for others? We did this last year during Under the Dome, and it worked really well. Could we please try it for TWD as well?
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Don't worry. The show is quite different from the comics.
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I'd like to think so, but this was specifically about the three new characters trying to get to D.C.
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I totally agree - and as someone who is purposely staying behind in the comics so they don't spoil the show - I usually have to stay away from WD discussions because some thoughtless comic nerd (hey i'm one myself!) will start spewing spoilers. Ugh.
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Maybe this has already been mentioned but.... I gotta say I find it really hard to conceive that it never occurred to Rick and the rest to have a place to meet in case the prison fell. They had a plan about getting everyone on the bus with some food, and well.... that failed miserably... So you mean to tell me there was no contingency plan?? In case they all got separated? That's just ridiculous and absurd.
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A contingency plan implies everyone at the prison had the chance to survive.

They know better than that.
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Another fantastic episode that felt like 20 min long. I want more!!!!
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This was a great episode, every bit of it!! Can't wait for next Sunday!!
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Is it just me or does anyone else think that Michael Cudlitz might have found the key to the pie cupboard? Looking a bit chunky there Mikey boy...
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Funny! I was just reading an interview with him, and he said after "Southland" was canceled he took a break from the heavy-duty work-outs. Then he got the call for TWD and had to be on set in 2 weeks. He said he decided at that point not to kill himself trying to get fit in two weeks; that he and Abraham would just have to compromise on his current physical state. Thought that was funny! Also, he's not a young buck anymore, so it's harder for him to stay trim and slim than someone like Glenn.
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I cant remember his name, but a young British actor was interviewed saying after being cast in a US show he hit the gym hard to get buff. At the first rehearsal for the show the director asked him to take his shirt off, and then said:"Well, there's an issue with your weight but we can shoot around that."
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@left4dead: reply to your last reply to me. Zombies eat animals too--the horse in season 1, pigs earlier in season 4--if they can catch them. I believe Jenner or Milton or someone on the show said that the walkers are dying but it's a slow process. I don't know how long they can go without food but it must be a long time.

Evidently there are still enough survivors around, but then many of them are dying and turning into walkers themselves. I would think that at some point the walker population would decrease--in another couple of years perhaps?
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Oh God yeh you're right I'd forgotten about that. Are animals susceptible to the virus, other primates perhaps?
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It's ridiculous the obsession this country has with physical appearance. Of course, we wouldn't expect people to be too fat in the Zombie Apocalypse because of the difficulty of finding food, but in TWD it's just been 1 1/2 years since it all went down, so really big people still would not be skinny if they were lucky enough to still be alive at this point.
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Very good point, I'm not all that clear about what keeps the actual zombies going, I mean can there be many people left to eat?
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I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. The Rick/house/intruders storyline seemed very "real" to me (real being subjective in this world) and illustrated that there is still a threat, be it zombies or humans. The scene with Eugene firing up mostly the truck and very few zombies also seemed real to me - shooting takes practice - a LOT of practice - and he was using a weapon that's even harder to aim with than a pistol. I've often shrugged at the fact everyone seemed to be a great shot of this show, this seemed fresh to me.

Every time they mentioned Judith in this episode I wanted to scream to the TV 'SHE'S STILL ALIVE IF ONLY YOU KNEW!!!!!!" Can't wait for that reveal …. wonder how long until they reunite seeing Rick, Carl and Michonne are on their way to the same destination as Carol, Tyreese and the girls.
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That was Jeff Kober from Sons of Anarchy sitting on the porch, does that mean we will see more of these guys? Seemed a very bit part for him to be playing.
Much much much improved episode. The guys in the house brought real tension, and Rick changed his shirt!! I like the new characters. Thought Glenn could do with a punch in the face. Would it have killed him to explain to the guy why he had to go back instead of being an ass? Glenn just came across as sulky to me during the episode.
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Of course he was sulky. He was put on a truck while unconscious and had to walk 3 hours drive back to a place for the chance that his wife might be alive. I'd be sulky too.
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They saved his life, they could have left him unconscious on the road to be eaten. Everyone else on the show has shit to deal with too, not just Glen.
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You're not wrong. Glenn just doesnt strike me as a glass half full kind of guy.
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Yeah I think we'll definitely be seeing him again
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I am a big fan of TWD. The first season had only 6 episodes but it moved at such good pace and I was hooked. Ever since then, the show had now become so popular that the writers seem to be slowing things down to milk it as much as they can.

I liked Abraham's character but the scentist guy look like fake douch bag. Its cool though, at least I would not feel bad if they decide to kill him off.
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Like most every episode of The Walking Dead - this one was ok - pretty good even. Most all of them are ok, some are bad, but virtually none are ever great. It's just not that kind of show - The Walking Dead will never be quality tv like True Detective - but it's a fun 44 minutes a week with zombies and a fair amount of action. Don't get me wrong, I like the show and have never missed an ep - but fine art this show is not. 7/10. Also the change in Michonne to being more expressive and open was too much too soon - sloppy writing.
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Just a few notes of my own:
I will forever be scarred by Michonne's looking down at her arm and realizing she wasn't holding Andre. This was in the first episode, and I'm still thinking about it. Every time I see her now, I have deep pain in my soul for her loss. I love her relationship with Carl. He needs an older person who is a buddy, and she fills that slot nicely. All that said, It's time to remove the dreads, darling. Although I do love dreads, yours are beginning to look ratty. According to Talking Dead last night, it's been about a year and a half since the Zombie Walker Apocalypse, your hair has probably grown out nicely. Please remove those frayed hair extensions.

Speaking of Talking Dead, I noticed last night that Chris Hardwick has succumbed to the atrocious hair style of having his head shaved over his ears. This makes everyone who wears it look like a moron. He should stop ASAP! It was this hairstyle that made me determine to quit watching Suits, and now I guess I'll have to quit watching Talking Dead as well. When I take over the world, this hair abomination will be the first thing outlawed. It makes the mullet the scientist dude was rocking look stylish and sophisticated.

I'm enjoying visiting with the groups just a little at a time. We get to see them in small slices, getting good character development. The story is also really moving ahead quickly now.
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I liked this episode. When the soldier said the scientist knew what caused the epidemic..my first thought was "holy SH$#"!! Those moments have been limited this season..Michonne smiling! Rick back to being bad ass! Grade for the episode A-
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I know. Suddenly, we're back trying to figure things out. We've discovered there's still a semblance of a government in D.C. There are still working phones, and people are still trying to fix the problem. Wow. I hope we continue to follow that storyline; although, I know right now they are all following Glenn to try to find Maggie. I always said Glenn is a natural leader, and now we know. These guys just decided to follow him when their truck was shot.
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Tara is pretty cute!
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i don't think i can take reading the comments for this show anymore, so many people coming on just to put it down the reviews are usually hard enough. i think the show had its poor moments especially the back half of season two but its not always going to be zombie slaughter and swift paced story. the way things are now is actually pretty enthralling so i'l definitely keep watching
about those guys in the house no matter how stupid you are if your mean enough, good with a weapon and have some back up anyone could survive..im waiting for the mike tyson cameo appearance!!
one other thing i can guess already is that eugene's not making it to season 5 just a matter of how and when..hope we find out his discovery first though..
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Mike Tyson, no. But we know Bill Murray survived.
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I really liked last night's episode. I did not see it as slow-paced for the most part like many people have stated. I'm not always keen on Carl scenes so I wanted those scenes to move faster, but that's just my opinion. Otherwise, I think TWD handled the three story arcs very well.
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Better, but still unbelievably predictable and a little pressed at times. The whole thing with Carl and Michonne and Carl literally yelling Judith's milk out of the blue was pretty much the definition of forced if I have ever seen it ever. I know he is a kid actor and all and up until then he never really had that much dialogue but come on kid, you are surrounded by fantastic actors, learn something.

The utterly predictable parts basically surrounded Rick. As soon as he gave up his gun (which at this point is magic because he would have ran out of ammo a long time ago. .357 is a great round, and they may have found some ammo at the various farms they have scavenged if they you know actually did that off camera, But he should be out.) to Carl pretty much yelled out loud that he was going to run into something bad. And what did we get? Standard biker/bad guys that what, choke each other out for a bed? Really? For a bed.

Speaking of things that don't make sense, Who sits on a toilet with their jeans on? I know this isn't HBO and they can't show penis on TV. Which would be there if he had to fight with his pants on but come on guys, they was probably the sloppiest thing I have seen from this show. How about letting Rick walk in on him in his undies while he is trying to pull his pants up? That would at least give some validity and advantage to Rick beating a guy who was healthier and didn't have a bust rib. Also were the rest of the guys there deaf? Are they used to hearing each other thrashing about when they are supposed to be dropping the kids of at the pool. Unless he has constipation issues that they talk about that I am pretty sure they would check what would obviously sound like a fight.

They are messing with the time lines. With Glenn and Maggie, they should have found each other. They couldn't have been far off from each other and Maggie would likely stick to the road or near the road. That truck might be noisier than the tank. They would have had to hear it. I would like to know the time line because really they should have been close, too close for a miss.

And the truck and our new companions. Eugene is a scientist, that has confidential knowledge about how this all happened and they need to get him to DC in what looked like a 2.5 ton M-35 truck with 500 mile limit and a diesel engine. Now Atlanta to DC is only about 600 miles, on a good day, on I85. This isn't a good day, that road isn't viable because there will be blockages, hoards of Walkers, and the like. And you have 2 and a half people because Eugene and his big brain, who didn't bother in the 2.5 to 3 years to learn how to use a weapon. He shot the freaking truck. I get the adrenaline thing, I have seen it happen. But the truck? come on. For crying out loud. And why does he have to look like a chump that would run a Gator farm? He is the key to solving all of this? Really? That, that might be the scariest thing this show has put out thus far. If Eugene is the last hope for the world, then they are fucked.

His other companions are interesting. Ford might be my favorite character that they have introduced. He is a soldier, he is a survivor, he likes killing zombies and most importantly he has what damn near every character thus far has lacked. The man has a plan, a mission, a purpose. FINALLY 3.5 seasons in and we finally have a person that is competent. That would say hey guys, maybe if we get separated we should meet up here. Or maybe we should scavenge the nearby areas within walking distance. Or pretty much all of the things this group has lacked. I get why he wanted Glenn. The two others with him. One is a supposed genius that can't shoot a gun the other is a girl with short shorts on in a world where zombies are trying to bite your legs. Good plan. I would want Glenn too. The only thing that could make Ford better is if he shoots Rick on sight. Because I can guarantee that Rick the whiner and "can't we be like it was, can't we all just get along" is going to cause conflict with Ford. Because Rick is useless and he isn't going to want to go to DC to potentially save the world, because of feelings.

Michonne, poor poor Michonne. The longer she sticks with Rick and Carl the dumber she gets. There was a gun in the pink room. The body in the chair had brain matter behind it meaning that person was shot. You left a gun in the room because you didn't want Carl to see what he has seen how many times before. Come on Michonne, where is the ruthless woman that we have come to love.

Other than those things it was a vast improvement over the last several episodes. They are still doing stupid things. But at least the moments in between the stupid are enjoyable. The stuff with Michonne and Carl save for the instance above were fun. It is nice to have a little bit of levity in all of this. And the two characters have a good chemistry.

I welcome the new characters, or well at least Ford. Perhaps he can inject some much needed smarts into this merry band of silly people.

This hope for a fix thing with Eugene is interesting. Mostly because this is the first time that there is hope in a world devoid of it. I have to wonder if the group will rally around that and become competent or if they will remain the same group stumbling and fumbling from one place to the next, relying on luck rather than acquired skill to survive. Ford and the new people might change that. I would love to see a super competent group. Ford, Glenn, Maggie, Carol and Daryl I know that isn't going to happen but I would love to see what that would look like.
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