-So, I've read a lot of reviews on the Walking Dead season 6 finale and season 7 premire and they aren't pretty. I'm going to start by saying that all the viewers who have come out with these negative comments about the show were warned by even the title that The Walking Dead would not be a show about the Keebler elves and their adventures through cookieland. The show is not a feel-good comedy with light losses but an eventual happy ending, so stop judging it like that's what you expected. The show is a group of writers' take on the question "what would happen if the world were suddenly set on fire and only a small amount of the population survived?". And honestly, think about survivors of this kind of world aren't all going to be sweet kindergarden teachers with soft hearts. It'll mostly be the ones whose moral compass points a bit off north.
-Which reminds me to let all the people know, who are disgusted by Glenn's death, that in the comics (THE ORIGIN OF THIS WHOLE CONCEPT) Glenn dies at Negan's hand. Yes, it was tragic and horrible I will say. It was real though. All of our beloved characters can't live forever. The mere thought that the writers can only be allowed to kill off those that we as the viewers don't care much about is morbid. That is suggesting that nothing in the world matters one bit unless its happening to you or someone you love. Yes, I understand that it's a show and the writers could've made it go any direction they wanted by making things less bloody or given more meaning to the deaths. This is true, but would we really be any happier if Glenn had died saving someone? No, he would still be dead. Glenn was really an awesome character but my favorite person on the show died with an arrow through the eyeball and no one really commented on it. Further back my favorite was Beth and she died with no warning from a pointless bullet through the head. The point is that his death was just as pointless as everyone elses. Name one who died in a way that really made it worth the loss. I'll just let that issue rest.
**To the person who equated Negan's group to Isis and suggested that we are entertaining ourselves with a perverted version of real issues, just no. Isis is a terrible threat to our country and a nasty part of the world as a whole, but the two are not even remotely the same. Evil is evil and if you look hard enough it all looks like evil. You can find paralells from TV shows and movies to our lives if you look hard enough because the ones writing them have been shaped by this world and, well, what goes in will come out. I mean, Ursala, the villan from The Little Mermaid, gets people to SIGN AWAY THEIR SOULS to gain vain happiness. She's basically the Devil if you want to go there.
-So, back on the point. What would really happen if one fourth of the world survived; and of that fourth you have the good and "normal" people, the psychotic people, the serial killers, the power hungry, the raw survivors, and even the mentally ill. Then you take those people and rip them away from almost everyone they love and a world that has a governing system complete with law enforcement and military and you let them loose in a free-for-all nightmare to see who makes it. It's The Purge every day. People are going through things that would cause any one of us to lose it, big time. So, please don't tell me you thought they'd all get along and the good would always that's a fairy tale. As is the thought that they are all split into good and evil. They are all individually good and evil. Except maybe mostly just evil.
-The point is to show that while they are fighting the horrific dead, the living can be worse. What horrifies us is that there can be something nastier than the zombies who are tearing each other apart to eat living people. They are fighting worldwide downfall as well. This is a group of people who are literally all doomed from the start. Every. Single. Person. They will all die. Whether naturally or not. If you've followed the show at all then you know that even when a person dies a natural death they come back as a "walker" anyways. The people aren't destined to rebuild society. They are going to survive until they simply don't anymore. The world of The Walking Dead is dying a slow and painful death.
-So, is the show too much? Maybe. Or maybe it's the right amount of pure tradgedy it was always meant to be. Just think about what you're really talking about before you declare that the writers should be fired or that the whole thing is rubbish. No one lied to you about what this was. In the comics there is only one left standing at the end. I was under no impression that the show would be any different. Lastly, I want to say that I do not support the bashing in of people's heads with a baseball bat, nor am I in support of Isis, psychotic serial killers, or any kind of crime against another human being. I'm just saying, the show is what it is and I'm happy to listen to anyone who has a differing opinion.
*A last side note: The show is on at a time when people who want to watch it can. So if anyone doesn't want their children to watch it then they shouldn't let them. That can be controlled by the parent.
Here we are fighting back terrorists IN REAL LIFE who beat, stone, quarter, mutilate and burn people alive. By creating and watching this crap and calling it "entertainment" we are sinking to a new low ourselves.
this was too much, to kill characters that were integral part of survival was just wrong. Supposed to be surviving zombies not humans going more to hell. Have watched since beginning but with that season 7 premiere episode I am done. Not even Daryl gets to keep his machismo, even he has been emasculated. Writers should be fired.
Well this is it. I'm not watching walking dead any more. The wow factor they were trying to portray didn't work. It was more like the YUCK factor. I couldn't believe the hatred that was portrayed in the first episode. I cant believe all humans would resort to that behavior. So now its not about surviving amongst the walkers but its surviving the ugly violence of humans. No thanks.
Well it finally happened. After six years of being a faithful fan of the show it only took ONE episode of Season 7 to get me to stop watching it forever. My wife and I were so stunned at the overly gratuitous violent tone of that episode that we only watched it for about the first 33 minutes when Negan was trying to get Rick to cut off his son's arm just to break him (I have since heard that it didn't come to that but I digress). Poor writing from a staff of immature, violent prone, crack using writing staff and a comically evil character who loves to hear himself talk (shame on Jeffrey Dean Morgan for even taking on this childish cartoon role) and then beat people to death with his phallic shaped extension of his penis (no doubt) did us in as fans. After pulling the "Glen died, or did he?" stunt from last year and now killing him in such a violent end (complete with bulging eyeball) did Glen such a disservice after six long years that apparently nothing is sacred anymore in that series. We all know that TWD is about violence, we get it, but now it's coming in the bucket loads. I guess if some blood is good then more and more blood is better. Sorry, I can handle violence but not on the scale TWD is (more than) willing to dish out. Hey, here's a future plot idea... how about if Maggie is dissected limb by limb to feed off a zombie attack until she is just a body without any legs or arms? It would sure make babysitting her easier in the future. How about have the first zombie-human sex scene! In an effort to bridge the gap between humans and zombies one of the women in the show agrees to have sex with a male zombie to produce a crossbreed that can both understand the zombie mindset and help the humans to cope with them better. I just thought I would throw out some ideas that the brain-dead writers might have missed. Anyway, we have deleted TWD and FTWD from our DVR and will no longer watch any more of this violent nonsense. Shows are supposed to be entertaining and NOT so dark and violent that they borderline on psychopathic bloodlust porn!
I have always loved the writing. However, I'm not always happy with the extremes they go to for ratings. I doubt if I will watch anymore because there doesn't seem to be a point to it. I don't mind the gore because zombies aren't real and I don't take it seriously, but I think with the death of Glenn, the show reached a new low and has clearly said good-bye to any moral compass they might have had. Slaughter just for the shock value or to prove they aren't afraid to push the envelope to any length is pointless. Perhaps next they will slaughter baby Judith in as horrific a way as they can imagine just to make sure we all know that nobody is going to survive the zombie apocalypse. Or perhaps they could invalidate all of it and have Rick wake up from a terrible nightmare. Anyway, buh-bye and, no, I won't let the door hit me in the butt.
I hope everyone who says they're not watching anymore follows through with it. This kind of audience manipulation should not be rewarded. I've been watching this show since its debut, and never thought about leaving until the fourth or fifth season. There were times I wondered why i was still watching, but I kept hoping it would get better. The writing continued to suffer, with the episodes written by Gimple being the worst ones. Then there was that absolutely ridiculous stunt with Glenn *maybe* dying, and a three week wait to find out. That was almost the end, but I figured let me stick around for season six and see if they learned their lesson. There were a lot of good episodes in season six, but then they pulled another stunt with that cliffhanger. I tuned in the premier just to see what would happen and I guess Gimple's idea of "we are going to make it up to you all" was that we all just wanted to see a sadistic cartoon villain bash some brains in, and try to make Rick cut his kid's hand off? Maybe in the hands of a better writer, the episode could have redeemed itself somehow, but I'm not sure how. The last ten minutes were pure melodrama. These actors deserve better. The show seems outright hostile to its viewers now. Kirkman said he wanted to break the audience too. Sorry, guys, I don't watch television to break me. I watch it to be entertained. I can deal with gore and abuse if I have faith that the writers know what they're doing. You guys are just playing with dramatic devices you don't understand. And you have some gall comparing yourself to Game of Thrones. I'm done. 100% out. Removed from the DVR Sunday night - both Walking Dead and Talking Dead. I will keep watching Fear the Walking Dead however, as that show was much better this year than last.
The pure genius of this series, and pure genius it is indeed, is that it is TV that MAKES you think!! Say it that makes you TV has always had the dumb and dumber reputation where one literally zombies out in front of the TV stealing away say, the gift of reading a good book. I remember the days of Dallas for example and the big question of who shot JR, it was a fairytale ranch and we all knew it was something you watched rather than felt. The walking dead however has transcended previous era's of the TV 'viewing' experience and pulled us in through thought provoking questions even about our own sorry existence and opened the first page of thought provoking emotionalism through the screen,i never really expected to live on a Dallas ranch eating breakfast on the verander with JR and co and i don't really expect to be beating off flesh eating zombles any day soon, but there is always the overriding question that TWD is always just nudging you, hey what and who would you be in this situation? what if? i would be amazed if any avid TWD viewer hadn't heard the same whisper in their ear whilst psychologically profiling themselves .. well that's just my opinion and as someone who really doesn't watch TV in general, i'm not saying it's 'quite life changing' but as somebody who generally doesn't watch ANY tv it's unique ability take the viewer to the unknown self has ''got me' now but ofcourse it's just TV.
I have been a fan of the show since episode 1. I refused to watch anyone of our beloved character get brutally murdered. Then the spoiler alert indicated the fans would be mad and Disappointed. After reading about who the characters were , I was glad I didn't watch. Unfortunately I have decided to stop watching the show because it's to brutal. Humans against zombies is a war in itself to find some sense of normalcy, but humans against humans has taken a dark side.
I am gutted with the outcome of season 7 premier. Abraham and Glenn were two of my favourite characters, and watching them die like that was shocking I was actually reduced to tears, but it had me on the edge of my seat and has got me wondering what the season will hold. Some people complained that last season everything was going too well, now people are complaining that the show has made the group vulnerable again, I thought it was shockingly good and while I really wish we hadn't lost those two characters, they had to do something to get people gripped and hooked and look, everyone's talking!! I hope we don't see any more of our main characters go this season, but Ricks broken state and the way the whole group were weak and on their knees - literally - makes us reconnect with them as people in a ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE that are basically in a bun fight for survival against Negan and his crew and I can't wait to see what the season has in store when we see them come together and take back control which at some point they will. But even if it takes a season, or 2, or 3 it will keep us wondering and hoping, thinking and watching!! I first seen watched season 1 because my partner put it on and I twisted my face - watching zombies pfft rubbish, and within 10 mins I was hooked and have been since!! The walking dead sometimes have to add a bit of gore, scare tactics and fear, or we wouldn't keep watching week in week out. Maybe it's better if they lived a happy, untouched life in Alexandria? Yeah that wouldn't get boring at all!
TWD has now turned into a shock and gore bloody serial killer's fan club TV show. The writers are pretty F'd up sick bunch and should be sent to do a couple of tours in Afghanistan. You guys just killed the show too bad.
Why? Why did it have to be Glenn? I was able to deal with abraham but Glenn? I was so devastated today that I stayed in my room all day and didn't go to any of my classes. Whats the point of teasing us last season making us think he was dead then letting him live only to kill him off less than a season later?
That was straight fucked up even for the walking dead. And now we've gotta sit through an entire season of rick kissing negan's ass and doing whatever he tells him to do. *sigh*
My wife and I been watching the walking dead since the beginning, we actually where purchasing the season on Amazon, but after watching season 7 we are done, one thing was the zombies now it just got gross, goodby walking dead.. the show just turned into a zombie and before long it will be finished!!
I have been a fan since the first episode, and I watch many episodes more than once;however, after last night i will not watch again. i am soooooooo disgusted and repulsed by the revolting way you killed off your characters. We have accepted losses in the past, but this was too much. Fans watch the show because of the characters. You should redo this episode, and apologize to fans. You really should not have put something so revolting on television. I STILL CAN NOT BELIEVE WHAT I SAW. Apparently, AMC and the producers have absolutely no social conscience or good judgment.
and now no more. It's funny I thought the television industry was run by rating numbers and yes you guys have just committed suicide. How can you lead us on such a long and devoted road only to throw this rubbish at us. Good bye forever SHAME SHAME SHAME
I have been a avid follower of this show. Pay for every episode on amazon prime. I will NEVER watch this show again. I will never pay a dime towards this show. It's one thing to kill zombies it's another to watch this crap!! People killing people so gruesomely. What was the point of episode one of season 7?!?!?!? What was the point!?!?!? Whoever wrote this is a sociopath. Kids can turn on this crap and watch it. Shame on you.
I can't believe I watched Walking Dead! I had to close my eyes and fast forward or I would have hurled. The guy who came up with this episode must be a sociopath for sure to make scenes like that. I had already guessed it was either Abraham or Aaron, but the clip where Negus said, Whow he took that like a man! Told me it was Abraham. So what was the point in killing Glenn. Also, they could of done the scene with Rick and Carl and gotten their point across. If you are going to kill Glenn, go ahead and kill Rick, who is definitely crazy now. Or Karl that would of maybe sent stupid Rick into picking that ax up and laying open Negus' head. But Hey Glenn's contract is up and they probably have an iron clad one with Rick who by-the-way - is not one of the beloved characters. No one said you had to follow that stupid comic book. So with killing Glenn you killed the heart and hope of the show. You replaced it with a dumb tiger and one happy looking crazy man. Way to go Walking Dead! I am done with the show!
Been a fan since the first season mainly because most of the violence involved paper mache monsters (zombies). But last night's premier was live on live human violence which was vulgar to the extreme. You have lost me as a viewer of The Walking Dead. Gratuitous human gore doesn't even describe what your writers and director put on display.
I have been a faithful follower of TWD since the beginning but last night's episode went too far. I don't understand how they are not able to use the "F" word but they can show the extreme graphic violence in this episode. It could have been done much more tastefully. I don't think they understand that many of their viewers are not typical "horror" film lovers. I'm a senior and never thought I would ever watch a series like this but because it was a story about real people and their struggles in a post apocalyptic world, it drew me and many others in. I'm not someone who is going to watch a Texas Chainsaw type movie. TWD was more about people than zombies. I could never stand to watch someone I love be beaten and mauled, and we have grown to love these characters. AMC should be ashamed they allowed this to air. Unless they put out some kind of notice that this type of person on person graphic violence will cease to be part of the story, I'm done. It's like the series has run out of good stories and is into shock and awe! AMC, you blew it.
It's like another one of those mystery movies' endings, when it ended and you've no idea what's happening, that's how it feels when viewers seen it through the "FEAR factors" in Rick's confused and "sodomized" brains of sh!t that Negan putted him through. Too much non-fiction in this sh!t, just like Microsoft (the old one that made Windows 7), has a lot of money and still want to skimp it due to budgets. Money wise like waters in a stream going through small rocks, roles has to be cutted or "paused" so the actors can takes their times out in other TV series or movie makings other than the TWD, it's not bad after all as I've seen some TV series has suddenly stopped over a year or 2 from making the next season due to they couldn't afford to keep the main casts on the pay role. Non-fiction just like I said. But it's sad that it make you feel as much as like it's the end of the series and then it's all confused! That lessen the excitement when they're all dead in the end (not talking about the first episode of season 7), because you've already experienced it half stewed in the first episode of season 7. Worse of all they're still too civilized to use a marker pen to draw a line around that kid Carl's arm! C'mon, even national security of USA, India and NZ would use a razor or a very sharp knife to do that! No, the national security are not witches ...
I have been with the show from the beginning but after last night I will never watch this show again. OMG it make me sick to my stomach to watch Glenn die. I even kept telling myself it was someone dreaming and they would show them waking up but they never did and so I turned the channel. I went to bed and had dreams about Glenn getting killed this way. WHY this way??? I'm done. No more walking dead for me.
Episode was poorly crafted from the writing to the direction to the execution. Sadistic CRAP. My Choice change the channel. There is no longer any substance - just gore driven sensationalism. Reminiscent of the ISIS executions - any sponsor should be looking seriously at leaving this mess. I won't find it hard to do something else from now on.
Too much gore for prime time Seasons 1-3 love this show, but last night was too much for me and if I had kids they would not be allowed to watch. I think next Sunday I will watch just the Strain and forget about AMC, the premier left me thinking about the old series Lassie finding her way home. I wish I could have tuned into a re run of that series, stress of way too many commercials and gore, gore, gore and me yelling at my tv who did ya kill, me reeling and my poor hubby saying what the heck are you watching! That type of gore doesn't equal a peaceful end of the weekend how many fans need therapy after that... producers went to far, and this is one fan that may not be returning.
There was a point in the Season 7 opener where Rick could have done some damage control and taken a chunk out of Negan. Isn't that what we were all waiting for? I was! Somebody besides Daryl needed to try and get a grip on this situation. Negan's notion that he could take Rick for a ride by himself could have been his "Achilles heel". Rick could have injured him, at least, and the race would be on to see who makes it back to the hostage location first. Should have, could have ... well, it's too late now. :( We definitely didn't need to see Glenn with his eyeball bulging out like that ... WOW ... GROSS!!! I "get it" that there is a shock value element at play here, but this was too much to cope with, especially in front of Maggie. It just made me sad, period. Can we have some respect for the characters that we have come to know so inimately? Did anyone else feel traumatized and disgusted? Is this how the audience is SUPPOSED to feel? Is this some kind of MK-Ultra psyop on the American public? WTF?!! We have come to expect certain things from these characters at this point. The real (original) Rick would have snapped and put that axe right in Negan's face. Give me a break!!! It would have been an all-out war. This is what the viewers wanted: some temporary redemption and resolution. But no ... We get nothing! This is a joke. This is what we waited for. Can Season Seven be a dream sequence? Please?
You took that violence way too far The Walking Dead!!!! It is truly disturbing that you would think that that episode was OK. I didn't even finish the episode I was discussed with Abraham and truly heartbroken with Glenn. Killing zombies is one thing people are trying to live, but you tied up people not zombies put them on there knees and beat them over the head with a baseball bat violently and show that on TV
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