The West Wing

Season 1 Episode 4

Five Votes Down

2
Aired Wednesday 9:00 PM Oct 13, 1999 on NBC
8.7
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Five votes keep a very important gun-control bill from being passed and the staff has 72 hours to track down the errant congressmen; Toby is accused of manipulating the stock market by having a friend testify to Commerce; Leo's wife gets fed up with his long hours.moreless

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  • Struggling for a win that's not even the one they want.

    8.0
    This episode endeared me more to the characters. I love how they fight so hard for a bill that they know isn't even what they really want, because they have to save face and get what they can. Just seems so fruitless, its hard not to feel for them. Then they don't even get to enjoy what little victory there would've been thanks to Hoynes(really speaks to how upset Leo was that he would still go to the VP's AA meeting after that). I swear, after five minutes in politics I wouldn't have a single strand of hair left to yank out in frustration. Just makes me wish they could get a real solid win. And as Josh said,



    "Sam, LBJ never would've taken this kind of crap from Democrats in congress. He would've said, 'you're voting my way in exchange for which I might remember you name, pal'."



    I wish the other dems. would just get behind their administration. They've made it clear that Bartlet does what he wants whether that goes against party politics or not, but he also always does what he thinks is right. That's better than a Pres. who does something he knows or feels is wrong just because it's what is expected from a democrat. As when Leo is telling Rev. Al in the first episode that Bartlet went around the country trying to convince teen girls not to get abortions, I strongly disagree with that, but I respect him for not acting like a machine that just spits out a leftist's agenda. Josh's meetings with Katzenmoyer and Wick were great though,



    "President Bartlet's a good man. He's got a good heart. He doesn't hold a grudge...that's what he pays me for."



    "You know, I realize as an adult not everyone shares my view of the world, and with an issue as hot as gun control I'm prepared to accept a lot of different points of view as being perfectly valid, but we can all get together on the grenade launcher! Right?"



    Leo's personal stuff brought the episode down a little, just never cared for romantic relationships in my dramas, but the in office scenes were great.moreless
  • Review

    10
    In the 4th episode of the first season of the hit TV series The West Wing. Leo, Josh and the rest of The West Wing staff and round up votes in congress to get a gun bill passed. Meanwhile Leo Is Trying to save his marriage. Over all I thought the episode was really good one of my favorite episodes of the first season of The West Wing. I liked all of the scenes where the staff tries to get the votes they need to pass the bill. The scene where The President and the staff are walking to the motorcade where Toby, Sam and the rest talk. My over all rating is 10 out of 10moreless
  • 5 votes down and they have not much time to get them back. And even if Leo seems what is coming, the others force him to go vice-president.

    9.3
    The episode really stand out of the tempo and dynamics. It has it magic and maybe that there was deadline and they had to make it fast, it added even more for it.



    I loved the character development. Leo's story really got more clearance and his problems are shown. And I enjoyed the dilemma he has - trying to do best for his wive but also he knows that his work is more important for him. But is he ready to lose his wive for his work?



    And I cannot not mention the scene with president taken two bills not should taken together and then tying to have a meeting with his staff. They have humor here most of the time, but that was super..moreless
  • Congress is voting on a bill to ban certain guns.

    9.4
    I think that this was such a great episode. I think that the bill they were trying to get past was a good one. Now only if we can get those types of guns off of the street i think that this country could be alot safer then what it is. I do not understand why they make those types of guns in the frist place. I felt really bad for Leo that he forgot his annversary with his wife and that she was tired of waiting around for him that she is going to leave him. I was upset that the VP got the credit for getting the bill passed.moreless
  • Definently a season 1 classic episode.

    9.5
    First of all, I love the West Wingers dealing with gun control. It was just amazing. Why can't they run the country? in real life, i mean.



    I love the financial disclosure, that was really hilarious, Josh and his smoking jacket. Then there was Bartlet and his back medication. "You mean I wasn't supposed to take both?" That scene cracks me up! And Toby. Gotta love Toby.



    It was also a lot of stuff going on for Leo, you learn he's an achoholic, and he and Jenny break up. Plus you kind of learn how he keeps his life seperate from work. And you meet Hoynes, who I don't like very much, but still...



    A really great episode. You just have to love this! Oh and the whole chinese food thing. I'm a member of the Josh Lyman fan club!moreless
Martin Sheen

Martin Sheen

President Jed Bartlet

Dule Hill

Dule Hill

Charlie Young

Allison Janney

Allison Janney

Claudia Jean "C.J." Cregg

Moira Kelly

Moira Kelly

Mandy Hampton (Episodes 1-22)

Rob Lowe

Rob Lowe

Sam Seaborn (Episodes 1-84)

Richard Schiff

Richard Schiff

Toby Ziegler

Jay Underwood

Jay Underwood

Christopher Wick

Guest Star

Sara Botsford

Sara Botsford

Jenny McGarry

Guest Star

Jillian Armenante

Jillian Armenante

Leela

Guest Star

Janel Moloney

Janel Moloney

Donna Moss

Recurring Role

Tim Matheson

Tim Matheson

John Hoynes

Recurring Role

Melissa Fitzgerald

Melissa Fitzgerald

Carol Fitzpatrick

Recurring Role

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions

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  • TRIVIA (1)

  • QUOTES (14)

    • Josh: No sir. We're going to do it in person. See, you won with fifty-two percent, but the President took your district with fifty-nine. And I think it's high time we come back and say thanks. Do you have any idea how much noise Air Force One makes when it lands in Eau Claire, Wisconsin? We're going to have a party, Congressman. You should come, it's gonna be great. And when the watermelon's done, right in town square, right in the band gazebo...You guys got a band gazebo?
      Katzenmoyer: Josh...
      Josh: Doesn't matter, we'll build one. Right in the band gazebo, that's where the President is going to drape his arm around the shoulder of some assistant DA we like. And you should have your camera with you. You should get a picture of that. 'Cause that's gonna be the moment you're finished in Democratic politics. President Bartlet's a good man. He's got a good heart. He doesn't hold a grudge. That's what he pays me for.

    • Margaret: You spend too much money.
      Leo: And you can squeeze the life out of a nickel better than any ten people I know.
      Margaret: Well, excuse me for not having made forty thousand a pop on the lecture circuit.
      Leo : Stop reading the disclosure reports! They're none of your business.

    • Josh: L.B.J. never would've taken this kind of crap from Democrats in Congress. He'd have said, "You're voting my way, in exchange for which, it is possible that I might remember your name." Pal, we need to win. And I mean win. We need to take a curtain call and a victory lap. And that's how we get momentum. We get it by being tough. We give away nothing. That's what I'm taking to Leo.

    • (referring to the song used to play Bartlet offstage after his speech):
      Sam: Happy Days Are Here Again?
      Mandy: He likes it.
      Sam: Who?
      Mandy: The President.
      Sam: Well, we try not to let the President make aesthetic decisions.

    • Bartlet: You know, you are what my mother calls a pain in the ass.
      Toby: Well, that's what my mother calls it to.

    • Josh: You know, I'm so sick of Congress I could vomit.

    • C.J.: Mr. President. Did you by any chance take your back pills?
      Bartlet: I don't mind telling you C.J. I was in a little pain there.
      Leo: Which did you take, sir, the Vicodin or the Percocet?
      Bartlet: I wasn't supposed to take 'em both?

    • Donna: You won our award for best gift valued over twenty-five dollars on the financial disclosure report.
      Josh: Really?
      Donna: Yeah.
      Josh: What won it for me?
      Donna: The 1189 dollar Viennatelli silk smoking jacket from Miss Sarah Wissinger.
      Josh (remembering): Ah, yes.
      Donna: You're also the runner up, by the way, with the 345 dollar antique scrimshaw cigarette holder, also from Miss Sarah Wissinger.
      Josh: Well, Sarah was very fond of me.
      Donna: I'd imagine with that smoking jacket and the cigarette holder, you were quite the dandy.

    • CJ: Excuse me, Toby. I'm heading out to lunch and I'm a little short. You wouldn't happen to have $125,000 I could borrow?

    • Leo: There are two things in the world you never want to let people see how you make 'em: laws and sausages.

    • Reporter: I'm curious about the President's farm in Manchester. The property value increased $750,000. What's that due to?
      C.J.: Secret Service improvements.
      Reporter: Can you go into detail, please?
      C.J.: The property now includes a helipad and the ability to run a global war from the sun porch.

    • Josh: You know, I realize that as an adult not everyone shares my view of the world, and with an issue as hot as gun control I'm prepared to accept a lot of different points of view as being perfectly valid, but we can all get together on the grenade launcher, right?

    • Sam: I don't mean to step on your toes, but you might want to rethink marrying the lines, 'Kids are dead! Kids are dead!' and 'Happy Days Are Here Again'.

    • Mandy: There's always resignation.
      Jed: Hot damn! Now you're talking!
      Toby: I think she meant me, Mr. President.

  • NOTES (2)

    • Awards:
      John Spencer was nominated for a 2000 Emmy in the category of Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series. He was nominated for his performance in this episode and in "Let Bartlet Be Bartlet."

      This episode received a commendation for a 2000 Prism Award in the category of TV Prime Time Drama Series Episode.

    • Music: The song played during the speech is Barbara Streisand's "Happy Days Are Here Again."

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