The West Wing

Season 7 Episode 7

The Debate (West Coast)

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Aired Wednesday 9:00 PM Nov 06, 2005 on NBC
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8.4
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    10
    This had great sound mixing.
  • Det var okej, men kunde ha varit så mycket mer. Live-avsnitt gjordes bättre i ER 4.01., debattavsnitt gjordes långt mycket bättre i WW 4.06: Game On (som jag därmed tänker se om nu för att göra en direkt jämförelse).

    5.8
    Det var okej, men kunde ha varit så mycket mer. Live-avsnitt gjordes bättre i ER 4.01., debattavsnitt gjordes långt mycket bättre i WW 4.06: Game On (som jag därmed tänker se om nu för att göra en direkt jämförelse).

    Faktum var att det inte blev mycket mer spännande än de flesta verkliga debatter, och det känns som att man hade kunnat ta ut svängarna betydligt mer. Visst hjälper det för att öka WW-universumets trovärdighet, men var det det som behövdes? Ingen av de här kandidaterna verkar vara värdiga att följa i Jed Bartlets fotspår, och enda gången som serien verkade komma ihåg sitt eget förflutet istället för att fastna i fejkad politisk debatt var när hans namn kom upp. Det här skulle möjligen ha varit intressant som en DVD-extra, men inte som ett helt avsnitt, definitivt inte utan klipp till vad som pågick bakom scenerna. Och Ellen DeGeneres? Jag har inga ord... och det menar jag inte positivt.

    Positivt: rent tekniskt snyggt, liveaspekten gör det lite spännande (vet inte om den versionen som dök upp på nätet var West Coast eller East Coast-versionen), och båda skådisarna skötte sig väl, främst Alda. Realismen var hög och kändes trovärdig. Men det hettade aldrig riktigt till. Helt enkelt, det påminde för mycket om verkligheten för att vara bra drama och bra TV.

    Och sorgen i att se de förtexterna utan Richard Schiffs namn? Jag kan inte riktigt förklara det...
  • El debate entre Santos y Vinick rumbo a las elecciones presidenciales toma un rumbo inesperado cuando ambos candidatos optan por la opcion de "no reglas" y asi exponer mejor sus posiciones ante el publico.

    9.5
    Santos y Vinick, en el capitulo anterior, acordaron un debate dominical, y asi poner fin a la serie de especulaciones sobre si debatirian o no. Con un moderador optimo, ambos presidenciables exponen los principales temas como son: Problema migratorio en la frontera; impuestos; educacion; salud; seguridad laboral; fuentes alternas de energia. Los dimes y diretes estuvieron a la orden de la presentacion. Ambos personajes representaron bien sus papeles, al grado de iniciar un debate propio para ganar la confianza y aceptacion del publico.
    ***
    Despues de ver este episodio, me di cuenta que hacer television es ver The West Wing. La idea del debate "en vivo" y "sin reglas" no es habitual para que un publico lo asimile en primera instancia. No solo por la calidad del formato televisivo (fondo de la escenografia, iluminacion, maquillaje, vestimenta...) sino tambien por el contenido del guion. Asi como se ha mencionado los temas debatidos, tambin es bueno apuntar que la actuacion del "publico" sobretodo cuando el debate se encandila y es necesario echar a uno de ellos por alterar la tranquilidad del mismo.
    Dentro de la saga de TWW, este episodio saltara a la historia debido a que fue realizado en vivo y en directo, una estrategia que se va dando este año dentro de la cadena NBC con sus programas lideres.
    No sabemos quien ganara las elecciones, pero es casi seguro saber que el gran beneficiado es el publico luego de ver este episodio.
  • Its the debate between Senator Arnold Vinick and Representative Matthew Santos in the POTUS campaign.

    9.6
    Excellent episode. The only reason I gave it a 9.6 is because Ellen DeGeneres in the filler parts was so incredibly annoying. My West Wing "jumped the shark" moment. However, the "debate without rules" was an excellent idea. We truly saw Vinick as a conservative and Santos as a liberal even though they hope to be painted as otherwise (liberal-moderate w/i their party for both). I thought that Forrest Sawyer did a good job. And this episode had a first in which no original cast members that remain on the show (Allison Janney, John Spencer, Bradley Whitford, and Martin Sheen) appear. Only Alan Alda and Jimmy Smits in additon to should be regular Janeane Garofalo. So...enjoy...excellent debate. Far outshines the 4th season debate between Bartlett and Ritchie in which we didn't see much of the debate.
  • I normally hate gimiky TV. That said, I have to say that this was an excellent episode of the West Wing. Felt more like I was watching a play than TV and is a perfect example of why the West Wing is such a great show.

    8.8
    The essence of the West Wing is that, every week, we get a fantasy picture of what we wish American Presidential politics would be like. Whether we agree or disagree with the issues (I frequent disagree) its nice to fantasize that our politcs could be as rosy and noble as portrayed on the West Wing.

    \"Debate\" is one of those golden West Wing episodes that allows us a glimpse of what could be. A glimpse of the potential each Presidential debate actually has. A glimpse of something that could be if, you know, we had honest politicians. That fact is, I wish a real Presidential debate could be done without \"rules\" and, I bet, most people do. In that format the truth has a much better chance come out of the spin, rehtoric and blather the recent Presidential debates produce. Of course, we all know that will never happen. At least the West Wing lets us experience the fantasy for an hour every week.
  • This episode was of the live debate. It was amazing! The candidates were amazing. There comments almost always was about the other person saying something that was bad. The candidates agreed on NO rules. so they got up walked around while talking and the

    9.8
    I thought this episode was one of the best. I am serious it was amazing. Everything was just perfect. I loved it. The shows can't get better than this. The candidates played their parts perfectly. If there is a episode better than this i will be amazed. If you did not watch this episode than you seriously missed something. WEST WING ROCKS!!
  • A terrifically acted and written episode, but the concept itself was a little flawed.

    8.0
    The debate itself was very well done. Both Smits and Alda did a terrific job of representing their characters. The seems between the scripted and the improvised were not that noticeable. They managed to be both combative, but not over the top. There were only a few times that they spoke over each other. Sawyer as Moderator did a fine job, lending a certain amount of credibility to the episode.

    However, as an episode of West Wing, this one was subpar. Not because of the writing or the acting, that was as usual exceptional. A live debate just doesn't make for very entertaining television. When all is said and done, the West Wing is still a television show meant to be entertaining, and this episode was not. I appreciate what they were trying to accomplish, and they accomplished what they set out to do, but as entertainment the episode left me a little wanting.
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