The West Wing

Season 3 Episode 7

The Indians in the Lobby

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Aired Wednesday 9:00 PM Nov 21, 2001 on NBC
8.6
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Disgruntled that Abbey has decided that the Bartlets will be spending the Thanksgiving holiday at Camp David instead of New Hampshire, Bartlet takes out his pique by boring everyone within earshot over his plans to cook Thanksgiving dinner, going so far as to call "The Butterball Hotline" to ask questions about cooking the stuffing. Josh works to expedite the return of a 13 year old Georgia boy whose parents sent him to Italy after he murdered his teacher. When Italy refuses to extradite the boy to a death penalty state, Josh makes a deal with the district attorney prosecuting the case, offering him unlimited financial backing for his reelection campaign in exchange for his not seeking the death penalty. Sam struggles with the revised OMB poverty level formula which will instantly create four million new poor people until Bruno finds a way to spin it to the administration's advantage. On Thanksgiving Eve, C.J. tries to find someone, anyone, from Interior to meet with two Stockbridge-Munsee Indians who plan to stand in the lobby, in full view of the media, until they receive an answer on an application they submitted 15 years ago to buy back land stolen from them.moreless

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  • Racing Sailboats.

    8.0
    I swear they could have just made the show nothing but a compilation of the cold opens and it would still have been some of the best TV ever made. CJ and Bartlet's scene in the Oval was gold.



    Bartlet: "You know that line you're not supposed to cross with the President?"

    CJ: "I'm coming up on it?"

    Bartlet: "No, no, look behind you."



    Poor CJ, just when she thinks she's out, she gets hit with what could only be the setup to a joke. As soon as I realized this was the Thanksgiving episode I was leery about it involving native Americans. I mean how many times has that plot been done? But I must say there wasn't a hackney feeling to the scenes at all, and it felt like a fresh take on the idea. They weren't quite funny or dramatic enough to be the star of the episode, but still entertaining and interesting.



    Sam's plot with the new poverty level formula was also entertaining. The fact that something that's going to help four million people, and millions more in the future, could reflect poorly on Bartlet's administration is just politics at it's finest. Bruno's solution was beautiful in it's simplicity, and I liked his story about Barnum's White Salmon.



    Bruno: "'Are you telling me this formula's been broken for years and the other guys didn't fix it?'"



    Bruno was also great in his scene with Bartlet, when he explained why he wasn't going to let any opportunity to pick up a few points be wasted, and I agree with him.



    Josh jumping through hoops to get the kid that shot his teacher extradited from Rome was an interesting storyline. I liked his scene with Roberto at the Italian Embassy. Though like Josh, I thought Roberto went a little too far. It was well written, but I think comparing the US to an abusive father was a little harsh, and like Josh I'm against the death penalty, at least for defendants who were a minor when they committed their crime.



    The best part was definitely Bartlet's call to the Butterball hot line. I had to rewind it twice I was laughing so hard. I love those moments where Bartlet acts just like a normal person.



    Some really hilarious moments, with some interesting drama as well.moreless
  • Turkey problems

    8.5
    First this episode starts like in total chase and you just do not get what is going on but when you manage to get on track, it is all very exciting.



    I liked Josh storyline about trying to get back boy from Italy who killed his teacher and it is so hard - who would have thought.



    CJ and indians offer really informative part of this episode and the way how she tries to help them and it is just impossible on that day - it was frustrating.



    And then there is president and the cooking hotline. It was fun. I just enjoyed that moment. They should do it every week :)moreless
  • It was an okay episode, just nothing really happened, and it definently didn't live up to "Shibboleth."

    8.0
    First of all, call me a crazy, OCD liberal, obsessed with political correctness, but the "Two Indians in the Lobby" thing drove me crazy! I cringed everytime Josh said that. And you would think all those "Ivy League liberals" would be more aware of not making racial comments. I loved the whole Butterball Hotline thing, that was just hysterical. The whole thing with the Native Americans in the Lobby could've been done a whole lot better I think. I liked the Italy thing, and Josh's "It doesn't work when someone is arguing my point." I liked that ambassador dude. I don't like Bruno. And I think that is everything.moreless
Martin Sheen

Martin Sheen

President Jed Bartlet

Dule Hill

Dule Hill

Charlie Young

Allison Janney

Allison Janney

Claudia Jean "C.J." Cregg

Rob Lowe

Rob Lowe

Sam Seaborn (Episodes 1-84)

Richard Schiff

Richard Schiff

Toby Ziegler

John Spencer

John Spencer

Leo McGarry

Gary Farmer

Gary Farmer

Jack Lone Feather

Guest Star

Georgina Lightning

Georgina Lightning

Maggie Morningstar-Charles

Guest Star

Armando Pucci

Armando Pucci

Alberto Fedrigotti

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Ron Silver

Ron Silver

Bruno Gianelli

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Renée Estevez

Renée Estevez

Nancy

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Nicole Robinson

Nicole Robinson

Margaret

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  • TRIVIA (3)

    • Goof: When Toby demands the ZIP code for Fargo, whoever looked it up for him got it really wrong. "50504" isn't a ZIP code for anything -- unless it's one of those fake TV "555" numbers. The most direct ZIP code for Fargo, ND, is 58103.

    • Josh keeps referring to the Dekalb County D.A., and he pronounces it as if the "L" is included, when in fact the "L" is silent in the Georgia pronunciation. We say "Dee-Kab" County down here.

    • Although in the past Georgia has executed children as young as 12 years old, under current law no one under the age of 17 can be sentenced to death.

  • QUOTES (7)

    • Josh: Why isn't this conversation being held in the DeKalb County D.A.'s office?
      Leo: It's taken on an international flavor.
      Josh: Much like myself.

    • C.J.: How do you keep fighting these smaller injustices when they're all from the mother of injustices?
      Maggie: What's the alternative?

    • C.J.: I can hang in there with the best of them, sir, but somewhere in the discussion of anise and coriander and the other 15 spices you like to use to baste a turkey, I just lost consciousness.
      Bartlet: You know that line you're not supposed to cross with the President?
      C.J.: I'm coming up on it?
      Bartlet: No-no. Look behind you.

    • Bartlet: This time of the year there should be a hotline you can call with questions about cooking turkey. A special 800 number where the phones are staffed by experts.
      Charlie: There is.
      Bartlet: What do you mean?
      Charlie: The Butterball hotline.
      Bartlet (pauses, takes off his glasses and stares at Charlie): Butterball has a hotline?
      Charlie: Yeah. It's an 800 number, the phones are staffed by experts.
      Bartlet: Are you kidding me?
      Charlie: No.
      Bartlet: God, I'm sorry, I love my country. Charlie, get me the number for the Butterball hotline.
      Charlie: Yes, sir.

    • Bruno: I have difficulty sometimes talking to people who don't race sailboats. When I was a teenager, I crewed Larchmont to Nassau on a 58-foot sloop called Cantice. There was a little piece of kelp that was stuck to the hull, and even though it was little, you don't want anything stuck to the hull. So, I take a boat hook on a pole and I stick it in the water and I try to get the kelp off, when seven guys start screaming at me, right? 'Cause now the pole is causing more drag than the kelp was. See, what you gotta do is you gotta drop it in and let the water lift it out in a windmill motion. Drop it in, and let the water take it by the kelp and lift it out. In, and out. In, and out, till you got it. The voters aren't choosing a plumber, Mr. President. They are choosing a president. And if you don't think that your family should matter, my suggestion to you is to get out of professional politics. And if you think that I'm going to miss even one opportunity to pick up half-a-mile boat speed, you're absolutely out of your mind. When it costs us nothing, when we give up nothing?! You're out of your mind.

    • Bruno: The same way P.T. Barnum sold a truckload of white salmon. By sticking labels on them that said "Guaranteed not to go pink in the can." I have this fish thing going on today.
      Toby: What the hell are you--
      Bruno:Are you telling me this formula has been broken for years and the other guys haven't fixed it? Like that... A truckload of white salmon...have you ever even heard of white salmon?
      Toby: No.
      Bruno: I could sell anything.

    • Bartlet: With the ingredients for stuffing you have to cook them before you put them in the turkey, and you're not going to know whether I did or not.
      Abbey: I'll do what I always do with anything you cook. I'll wait for the girls to eat it first.
      Bartlet: Me, too.

  • NOTES (2)

    • Awards and Nominations:
      This episode was nominated for a 2002 Emmy Award Nominee for Outstanding Directing For A Drama Series (Paris Barclay).

      Nominated for 2001 DGA Award in Outstanding Directorial Achievement in Dramatic Series Night (Paris Barclay).

    • This episode was originally called The Butterball Hotline

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