The West Wing

Season 3 Episode 5

War Crimes

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Aired Wednesday 9:00 PM Nov 07, 2001 on NBC
8.6
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The President has a showdown; Donna lies when she appears before the Congressional committee investigating the President; Leo debates with an old friend about the US's future stance regarding the war crimes tribunal; Sam tries to find the logic in a Congressman's proposed legislation to eliminate the penny.moreless

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  • Be subject to one another.

    8.0
    Bartlet and Abby were killing it in the first scene coming off the credits.



    Bartlet: "I have no problem with Ephesians and any time you want me to cleanse you with the washing of water you know I'm up for it."



    Abby: "I'm going to the residence, I'm taking a bath, I'm turning on Sinatra."

    Bartlet: "How does Mrs. Sinatra feel about that?"

    Abby: "Peace be with you."



    Poor Charlie has just got to stand there and pray they don't make him pick a side. The mirth was cut short with the sobering news that the eight year old girl shot in the Baptist church in Texas wasn't going to live to see her ninth birthday the next day. The scenes that it led to, between Bartlet and Hoynes, provided some excellent drama. I did feel sort of bad for the vice president, as Bartlet did tell him that he was only going to serve one term, but Hoynes needs to remember that he hasn't exactly towed the company line in the past. And because of that he owes Bartlet as much as Bartlet owes him.



    Toby's speech to the junior staffers might have been my favorite moment with him so far.



    Toby: "We win together. We lose together. We celebrate and we mourn together. And defeats are softened and victories sweetened because we did them together. And if you don't like this team well then there's the door."



    In addition to being incredibly well written and acted, I think it might actually be pretty effective in getting them to not want to leak anything else.



    Donna managed to top her last blunder, by not admitting to the prosecution that she keeps a diary. I think it pisses me off so much for the same reason it does Josh, because I really like her character. Seeing Josh unable to keep his anger suppressed was upsetting though. Glad they reconciled, at least somewhat, at the end of the episode. I definitely got the impression there was something in that diary about Josh that Donna really didn't want getting out there.



    Leo's scenes with Gen. Alan Adamle(Gerald McRaney, great actor by the way, in Deadwood especially) were disturbing. The way Alan stares at Leo with those dead eyes of his, after telling him he could be tried and convicted of a war crime, was just scary. I thought they both gave great performances.



    I also enjoyed CJ's scenes with Will Sayer(Michael O'Keefe, they really do have a knack for getting great actors for their guest spots), the reporter back from Myanmar. Though I do still miss Danny.



    I loved seeing Josh and Toby stepping out of their normal attitudes, almost switching with each other in fact. Good episode.moreless
  • Donna and her diary..

    8.5
    So, the hearings are going on and this time it is Donna's turn and she manages to blow it with simple question and now there is a mistake she has to fix and Josh really works that somehow out, at least it looked like it.



    President has a quite important conversation with his vice president when he wants to do something about the guns in Texas but they end up yelling and talking about re-election. And Sam has penny problem what is again one of those "look like pointless" things he does. Leo learns something about himself and CJ has some interesting conversation.moreless
  • There are so many good parts of this episode... Leo, Donna's diary, the elimination of the penny...

    9.5
    The beginning of the episode was a little confusing, just because it jumped right into a briefing session about something, but you weren't sure what. It got better though, and the thing with the shooting in the church was so sad. Especially with the little girl dying. But the scenes with Bartlet and Hoynes afterwards didn't blow me away, they were just kind of OK. I'm not a big fan of Hoynes so maybe that's why...



    Sam and the elimination of the penny. Haha, I think pennies can be very useful at times. But I love Sam reading up on everything he can on pennies. Just another reason to adore him.



    Toby and the staffers... It didn't seem very Toby, but it was sweet none the less.



    I don't know what I thought about Will, the reporter and CJ. He made some good points, and was kind of funny, but I didn't like him very much. Maybe it's cause he was dissing the White House Press Corps, although he made good points. I'm not sure.



    Leo's war crime thing was definently one of my favorite parts. When the guy told Leo about his mission and the civilian casualities... If I didn't completely love Leo and John Spencer then, this definently changed that. The look on his face, the "Why did you tell me this!?" It was heartbreaking, the face wasn't worrying about being tried, it was this realization that he didn't do what he thought. It was so sad... but so amazing.



    But my other favorite part of the episode was the Donna thing... But it's hard to explain why. Josh and Donna are definently my favorite couple and characters. It was very "frisson," I just liked it. Very dramatic, and exciting. I love the scene at the fountain, when Josh saves the day. I don't like Cliff, but when he leaves, the very end of the episode, I love how Josh just puts his arm sort of around Donna and says, it'll be alright. wow, this definently the longest review, I've ever written.moreless
Martin Sheen

Martin Sheen

President Jed Bartlet

Dule Hill

Dule Hill

Charlie Young

Allison Janney

Allison Janney

Claudia Jean "C.J." Cregg

Rob Lowe

Rob Lowe

Sam Seaborn (Episodes 1-84)

Richard Schiff

Richard Schiff

Toby Ziegler

John Spencer

John Spencer

Leo McGarry

Bob Glouberman

Bob Glouberman

Terry Beckwith

Guest Star

Gerald McRaney

Gerald McRaney

Alan Adamley

Guest Star

Michael O'Keefe

Michael O'Keefe

Will Sawyer

Guest Star

Tim Matheson

Tim Matheson

John Hoynes

Recurring Role

Mark Feuerstein

Mark Feuerstein

Clifford Calley

Recurring Role

Renée Estevez

Renée Estevez

Nancy

Recurring Role

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  • QUOTES (6)

    • Abby: I'm going to the residence, I'm taking a bath, I'm turning on Sinatra.
      Bartlet: How does Mrs. Sinatra feel about that?
      Abby: Peace be with you.

    • C.J.: Somebody said you were hanging out with some tribe, and they made you a king.
      Will: I'm a god.
      C.J.: Oh.
      Will: I'm the only white man to ever witness the sacrificial rites of the Bau tribe of Fiji. I was almost a victim myself, until they made me The Supporter of the World.
      C.J.: How'd you swing that?
      Will: Using my Palm Pilot, I convinced the Bau I had the power to make the gods' writing appear at will, and more significantly, predict the next day's weather.
      C.J.: So you're a god?
      Will: I'm the god of Good Harvest and the Land of the Dead.
      C.J.: I gotta go there and bring my laptop. It quacks when I have e-mail.
      Will: No, you're too tall.
      C.J.: What would happen?
      Will: They would paint your face and other body parts black so as to resemble a warrior ornamented for feast or combat. Then you would be garroted by a length of boar tripe.

    • Toby (addressing the junior staff after an apparent leak to the press): We're a group. We're a team. From the President and Leo on through, we're a team. We win together, we lose together. We celebrate and we mourn together. And defeats are softened and victories are sweeter because we did them together.... You're my guys and I'm yours---and there's nothing I wouldn't do for you.

    • Bartlet (on the Vice President's refusal to endorse gun control in his home state): You're a hero in Texas!
      Hoynes: I was a hero in Texas.
      Bartlet: Texans don't like that you have the courage of your convictions?
      Hoynes: They're not my convictions. They're yours.
      Bartlet: Oh yeah, I forgot.

    • Bartlet: Words when spoken out loud for the sake of performance are music. They have rhythm and pitch and timbre and volume. These are the properties of music and music has the ability to find us and move us and lift us up in ways that literal meaning can't.

    • Cliff: It was a perfectly innocent mistake. Now, let me talk to your lawyer and help you walk this back.
      Donna: Just out of curiosity, what would you say? That you thought you saw a diary while you were hunting around for your boxer shorts?

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