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Official Discussion Thread - "Clarifications" (S05E08) (Spoilers)

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    peekone

    [1]Feb 18, 2008
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    "A lie ain't a side of a story. It's just a lie." - Terry Hanning

    Baltimore's renewed police commitment brings fresh recruits to Daniels and McNulty, starting with Carver; Facing a new political challenge, Carcetti is forced to make dangerous political deals; As the Pulitzer season winds down, Haynes approaches Templeton about his sources; Bunk returns a McNulty favor; little Kenard makes a big score; Dukie finds work; Fletcher continues his interview with Bubbles; Freamon presents his latest plan to a prosecutor; Sydnor uncovers the missing piece to a puzzle; McNulty finally comes clean.


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    SVU17

    [2]Feb 18, 2008
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    Excellent ep! We finally get to see Poot.
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    2drama

    [3]Feb 18, 2008
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    we see that Poot Carr got tried of the game is working in a shoe store

    Omar is popped does not make the newspaper & the End i am not sure what happened at the end with the tech (did he change the names around)

    Scotty is busted by Marine vet party time - Chocolate milk (coffee)

    Cops are getting over-time and rental cars ( I can pay my child support)

    Sen Clay Davis getting played by Det freeman

    Watching the FBI agents cought ...cought break down Jimmy McNulty (Serial Killer) priceless

    Edited on 02/18/2008 5:25pm
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    domino87

    [4]Feb 18, 2008
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    Just got done watching this episode and shiiiiiiiit, Omar!!!!!!! I had to pause it for like 10 minutes after Omar got it. Still can't believe it. Will have more of a post after I get done with the shock of Omar dying, even though I saw it coming a mile away.
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    peekone

    [5]Feb 18, 2008
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    The scene where McNulty is getting the serial killer profile from the Feds was pricelss. I couldn't stop laughing, they certainly nailed him in that one.
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    malcovio

    [6]Feb 18, 2008
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    So does that thing at the end mean Kima is gonna turn them all in?
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    SVU17

    [7]Feb 19, 2008
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    That FBI profile of McNulty was priceless, and wow did it make him think a lot harder about the stuff he's pulled. I didn't quite get what happened at the end with the ME either. Did he switch the tags back to the right people, or the wrong. I'll have to watch it again today.
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    googlplex

    [8]Feb 19, 2008
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    Another stunning episode. The newsroom is converging and gus' position is set, his blazer drawn (or almost holstered) and blurting some lines about the newspaper chain of command. It is obvious that some of the newsroom stuff is a little tame, but to be honest where else could the show have gone.

    As soon as I saw Kennard with that cat (presumably dousing it in lighter fluid/gas?) I just knew that was it - also aided by some tv.com poster's inability to leave a spoiler out a thread title - puhh leez if you put Omar in the there you know he gets got.

    I have a feeling that McNulty will once in his life have to face the music. He beat the sauce once, he was saved - **** he skipped a season or two didn't he, the sauce got him back into his all-American hero pose - remember him swigging from the Jamison when he was rubbing some jib rock treads on homeless #1. I also think that it won't be someone from the inner circle, it will probably be a mope detective who didn't get his holiday OT. How the tide has turned as we compare McNulty and Bubbles - he doesn't even have to be in the episode to effect the lines drawn between characters. It's almost as if it's a 1 strike policy with Simons - Parlow beat the bodies in the vacants but at least we know that he will be got this season.

    And the morgue tech at the end: I assume he was merely correcting a mix up - I mean who the **** doesn't know who omar little is

    Also, on an aside note, today I found myself consoling a beleaguered real-estate agent with the line "it's all in the game". Damn I love this show.

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    Goodlivn20

    [9]Feb 19, 2008
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    just an ok season so far and i will miss the show but i am continually disapointed with these 'filler' storylines that i dont like that much

    the political campaign of the Mayor, the ENTIRE newspaper storyline, and to be honest im not to thrilled about this serial killer nonsense but i give that some slack because it helps move the other story that i like ( the wire)

    they use up whole episodes on this stuff and its killing me. i realize i think of this crap as 'filler' simply because it doesnt appeal to me....but it just seems that other seasons had 2-4 storylines that i liked so i wasnt dying whenever they cut from the prison or they cut from the barksdales. now im interested in much less of whats happening and the stuff i want to really see is on the screen for 2-3 mins as they cut back to the newspaper or mayor's office again

    at least they gave me a ton less of bubbs and for that im thankful

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    iakins77

    [10]Feb 19, 2008
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    Like all of you, I am shocked and upset at the way Omar went out. But I was honestly no less upset when Stringer, Bodie, or Prop Joe went out. I guess then stinging part is the great Omar being taken out by some young hopper, but as was mentioned in an earlier comment, that's the game baby. Shorties fly bullets just as quickly as older cats, and sometimes more accurately. The thing I was struck with during this episode is now miserable Omar seemed. When he was screaming in the street about how Marlo was a punk and wasnt for the city, he looked as desperate as I've ever seen him, and just flat out tired. Not trying to make his death more dramatic or meaningful, because it is what it is, but in reality this is the mindset of a lot of cats who are trapped in the game. Miserable and not able to get out. DeAngelo felt it in season one, and couldnt escape it even in prison. Wallace felt it after seeing Brandon sprawled out on that car through his bedroom window. Stringer felt it when he realized that Avon was indeed "just a gangster, I suppose". Bodie felt it as he was kicking in those squad car windows. The game is the game, nobody wins, and sometimes you don't have many choices as to whether or not you can stay out of play (as Dookie is finding out). Once again the show is doing a good job of portraying the reality of life in the game, and at the same time wrapping this show up as we could only expect and hope they would.
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    peekone

    [11]Feb 19, 2008
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    This episode really made something clear to me, and that is that outside forces are always dictating what the Balitmore Sun writes about, when it should be the other way around. McNulty's whole homeless "serial" killer, as well as City Hall are dictating what the paper reports on, when it should be the reporters unravelling stories and basically uncovering what's really wrong with the city. Therefore, themselves dictating to City Hall and the Police Department what needs to be fixed, and what needs to be heard by the public.
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    peekone

    [12]Feb 19, 2008
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    googlplex wrote:
    I just knew that was it - also aided by some tv.com poster's inability to leave a spoiler out a thread title - puhh leez if you put Omar in the there you know he gets got.

    As soon as I saw the thread, it was deleted.
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    whatever6384657

    [13]Feb 19, 2008
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    peekone wrote:
    googlplex wrote:
    I just knew that was it - also aided by some tv.com poster's inability to leave a spoiler out a thread title - puhh leez if you put Omar in the there you know he gets got.

    As soon as I saw the thread, it was deleted.


    It wasn't deleted fast enough. Now I had season 4 and 5 spoiled for me because everyone thinks their opinion is worth more than sheeeet.
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    rockin01

    [14]Feb 19, 2008
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    whatever6384657 wrote:
    peekone wrote:
    googlplex wrote:
    I just knew that was it - also aided by some tv.com poster's inability to leave a spoiler out a thread title - puhh leez if you put Omar in the there you know he gets got.
    As soon as I saw the thread, it was deleted.
    It wasn't deleted fast enough. Now I had season 4 and 5 spoiled for me because everyone thinks their opinion is worth more than sheeeet.
    Hey, folks- please, let's not pile on here. I saw the offending post too, but it was gone was soon as I refreshed the page. I'm not a TV.com editor, but I know it takes hard work to be one, and I've always admired peekone's dedication, speed and attention to detail. The post was deleted as quickly as humanly possible; anything else would have been some Spiderman sh*t. Besides, the real culprit was the offending poster...pile on all you want there.

    Edited to add: Back on topic- I can't believe I didn't even pay attention to what Kenard and the other kids were doing to the cat until other posters pointed it out; I was just too geeked about what I knew was coming after I saw Kenard. Damn and double damn, I still miss Omar!

    Edited on 02/19/2008 6:03pm
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    peekone

    [15]Feb 19, 2008
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    rockin01 wrote:
    I'm not a TV.com editor, but I know it takes hard work to be one, and I've always admired peekone's dedication, speed and attention to detail.

    Well at least someone appreciate's it. I strive to make this guide the best it can be, sans season 4, which is totally screwed with cast credits at the moment.

    Another thing, why oh why does Templeton feel the need to take all his stories to another level? Terry Hanning's story, the Iraqi veteran, didn't need to be altered, yet Templeton feels the need that it had to be. Point? It's as though he just can't help himself from lying. I loved it when Gus put his foot down on the made up quote near the end. Was it really necessary? I just put it down to laziness, he couldn't be bothered finding that brilliant quote from one of the dozens of homeless flocking to the Mayor's speech, he couldn't be bothered finding that needle in a haystack.
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    kareeb

    [16]Feb 19, 2008
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    This was a really great episode....except for the 30 mins or so of time wasted listening to Carcetti and that lame storyline....

    Question....did anyone happen to see the previews for episode 9/10!!! Looks like it's about to go down!

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    peekone

    [17]Feb 19, 2008
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    kareeb wrote:
    Question....did anyone happen to see the previews for episode 9/10!!! Looks like it's about to go down!

    10? I only happened to see 9. It's up on youtube, though quality is terrible.
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    Rave0800

    [18]Feb 20, 2008
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    Wow incredible I didn't see Omar getting popped by Kanard? You can't be Serious Omar should have been killed when he jump off the balcony or Chris or Snoop or even Marlo should have popped him
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    GoddBless

    [19]Feb 20, 2008
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    Rave0800 wrote:
    Wow incredible I didn't see Omar getting popped by Kanard? You can't be Serious Omar should have been killed when he jump off the balcony or Chris or Snoop or even Marlo should have popped him


    Well that right there should let you know he was on borrowed time!
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    rockin01

    [20]Feb 20, 2008
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    Okay...I guess I'm ready to talk about some of the OTHER things that happened in this excellent episode. In no particular order:

    * The walloping good scene between Beadie and McNulty. Girlfriend, ain't havin' NONE o' his BS, is she?

    * Bunk. Is. The. Man. Love his dogged work ethic, and his righteous indignation at the antics of Freamon and McNulty gets more intense and hilarious each week. Plus, brotha is the only one who seemed to really be saddened by Omar's passing.

    * There may be hope that Kima will not become the female McNulty after all. The "goodnight moon" scene at the end of the last ep had me misty-eyed, and man, was she p*ssed when she found out the Homeless Killer was a ruse. The scene where she confronts Lester and Sydnor was classic...they looked like two schoolboys caught watching porn by Mom. Kudos to Sydnor, though, for cracking Marlo's code. Who knew he'd be the new Prezbo?

    * Gus. Is. The. Man. I wanted to stand up and cheer when he put his foot down to the managing editor and sashayed out of the office. Templeton's days are numbered. And Fletcher looks like he may have a Pulitzer-worthy story on his hands.

    * Carcetti has become such a nakedly ambitious weasel...it's hard to watch him anymore. The scene where Clay Davis shakes him down for two seats on the Liquor Board is a classic...sheeeeeeiiiit! It took Lester's brazen bluff to wipe that sheeeeiit-eating grin off Davis' face.

    * Lol at Rawls' diatribe: "I'm all for a little kinky sh*t, but chewin on a homeless fella?".

    * Snoop and Chris' shock and dismay at learning the means of Omar's demise was priceless. And the tension between Michael and Snoop doesn't bode well for someone... God, I hate Marlo's arrogant azz!

    * Poot sighting! His advice to Dukie sucked, though. Dukie...a junk apprentice? That's a job?

    * Loved McNulty's uneasy reaction to the spot-on FBI profile. Thought the bit with the pompous FBI boss was a bit overdone, though.

    * Carver. Is. The. Man. (that sounds strangely familiar) It's great to see what a solid Police he has become. But I hate seeing him get mixed up in Jimmy's shenanigans.

    * Finally, I have to give a shout out to MKW's haunting performance in this episode. A shadow of himself, Omar prowling the streets like a wounded animal, bellowing out his endless and increasingly hollow-sounding challenges to Marlo is an indelible and heartbreaking image.

    Edited on 02/20/2008 11:36am
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