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Every single TV network is making original programming right now, and that means new shows are popping up at all times every day. In fact, by the time you finish reading this sentence, approximately 14 new shows will have debuted somewhere on cable. But even though A&E has been in the game for a few years now, it has yet to launch a bona fide hit—Bates Motel is the closest it's come to achieving success with a scripted series. The network is gunning to change that with its new drama Those Who Kill, which it hopes will make it known for more than the murder of water fowl and bidding on other people's garbage. But should you check it out? I've already seen the pilot, and I have so much advice for you that you'd better take notes. Those Who Kill, you're the victim of this latest edition of Hey TV.com, ANOTHER Show About Serial Killers?


Those Who Kill, so this is a show about those who kill?

Yes! And those who catch those who kill and those who are killed by those who kill. Catherine Jensen is a ferocious detective who chases murderers in Steel Town, USA (Pittsburgh). But she's also trying to crack a more personal case, which it gives the show its serialized storyline: the murder of her brother. Helping her out—and really kind of doing her job for her—is a forensic psychologist and part-time college professor named Thomas Schaeffer, because all serial-killer shows must feature some sort of college professor element them at all times. It's the law! He's got a spotty record working with the cops, but he's also really good at what he does. So yeah, these two run around town chasing killers, basically, and the looks like it will be a case-of-the-week-type situation.


This is one of those Danish shows that was adapted, right? Who stars in it?

Yep, Those Who Kill is an adaptation of the Danish show Den som dræber that was canceled after one season in 2011. The A&E version was adapted for American television by Glen Morgan (The X-FilesTower Prep), and directed by Joe Carnahan (Narc, The Grey, The Blacklist). Chloe Sevigny plays Catherine; the gig marks Sevigny's grand return to a leading teleivision role after portraying a transgender assassin in the DirecTV misfire Hit & Miss and a horny mutant in American Horror Story: Asylum. James D'Arcy (Cloud Atlas) plays Thomas, and you'll also see James Morrison, Omid Abtahi, and Bruce Davison



When does Those Who Kill start the murderin'?

Those Who Kill premieres Monday, March 3 at 10pm on A&E, right after the Season 2 premiere of Bates Motel.


Who might enjoy Those Who Kill?

People who like any television show about serial killers due to a sick love of serial-killer dramas—those people will probably like Those Who Kill, as it is indeed a serial-killer drama because TV doesn't already have enough of those. But it's a lot closer to something like The Following than it is to something like True Detective in every sense, from its aesthetics to its general level of competence.


What's to like about Those Who Kill?

There's a certain look to the show that might appeal to some, and the tone is appropriately creepy. The killer in the pilot does some fun things with a face shield and a rolling chair, for instance. And Catherine is a rule-breaking hardass, so Those Who Kill has that going for it. Sevigny is decent in the role.



What isn't so great about Those Who Kill?

Those Who Kill is utterly ridiculous. Like, The Following might be a smarter, more well-thought-out series. Early character development and motivation are minimal, so the pilot feels like you're just watching two people do their jobs (and really only one of them is doing anything, because Catherine is a terrible detective) instead of getting to know them. I get the sense that all the grisly killer stuff is there just for the sake of shock value, and of course Thomas is around at every opportunity to specifically lay out the killer's mental state with cockamamie theories that have nothing to do with the case. "He kills them because he can't improve his life so he won't let anyone else improve their lives." Whatever, dude. 


So, should I watch it?

No. It's another terrible entry in a genre that needs to be ritualistically murdered.


Do you have a trailer I can look at?

Yes, I do.




Those Who Kill premieres Monday, March 3 at 10pm on A&E.


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AIRED ON 5/18/2014

Season 1 : Episode 10

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I have watched the whole season and I really enjoyed it. The season finalie has set the show up for the new season so I really hope it gets renewed.
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You cannot win anymore...I love Chloe, and thought yuk another grisly show but she's such a classy actor, however, her character set women back decades right until Jodi Foster gave us a truly intelligent police officer...four times in one show the bad guy gets the jump on Catherine, so that makes her "TV's DUMMEST COP...NO POLICE OFFICER TURNS THEIR BACK WHEN THEY JUST FOUND A SERIAL KILLER...how stoopid, oh well, win some loose some...and everyone is right, all the gross murders from LAMB and DEXTER are showing up on every show, heck I freak if I get a papercut, and I hope most serial killers are not as amazingly smart as they are portrayed, who thinks of this crap....and doesn't it give bad people ideas they might never have had...sorry Chloe, not your fault....
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More ridiculous than The Following? Is it really possible to be that low?
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Well, I'll give it a 4-ep-testrun and reevaluate afterwards.

It certainly has the setup to be a show with an interesting serialized aspect to it. And I'm not exactly sure, after the pilot, that all episodes are going to be about serial killers. I certainly hope not.
You are right though about the leaps that Thomas makes. And on a first glance they might both be leaning towards psychopathy. The story about her family, the house and why she chose him certainly seem intriguing.
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Well the trailer is good. I might catch the danish one though.
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danish one was ok
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Your review-preview is exactly the impression I got first seeing the promo... A gore-fest with zero plot. Thanks for sparing me from wasting an hour :)
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There was a reason they cancelled the Danish show; it was crap.

The only redeeming factor is Sevigny, who's a decent actress.

This, from someone who actually likes serial killer shows.
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Sorry I didn't know where to post new shows but talking about foreign adaptions here's what seems to be a promising british prison drama coming up. Any chance to get a review on this one Tim?

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Seeing as I'm from Pittsburgh I'm at least going to give the show a shot, but my expectations are low considering I'm not really big on the serial-killer dramas. Not necessarily because they're bad, but because it's been done to death at this point.
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its really bad if even the following is thought to be better than this... :s...
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Chloe's last show, 'Hit and Miss', where she was a dude pre-op transsexual, was all kinds of original and interesting. She's better than this stereotypical overdone boring role. Disappointing that this is where she ended up. When are the good television actresses going to stop taking 'female cop' roles and try something more challenging? Leave 'lady cop' to those pretty women that kind of lack any discernible acting talent like Stana Katic.


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Tim, thank you for your preview. I have discovered that my viewing habits include series that have been shunned by most. I will watch the first couple episodes, hoping that there will a gem under the general negative diatribe.
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So very much pass.
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Sounds like even Sevigny can't save this.
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Hard to watch Chloe Sevigny in anything after The Brown Bunny in which she actually gives a guy a blowjob, like for real, you see his dick and everything. It would be considered pornographic if it weren't so uncomfortable to watch.
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Not just any guy, the writer/director/star. I think that's what really grossed me out about it, lots of people do sex scenes - both real and simulated - but there's something truly humiliating about being an actress performing a non-simulated sex scene in a film that's clearly all created by the person receiving the oral sex. There should be some level of detachment from the creative level to that sort of thing. Unfortunately, that's the first thing I think of whenever Chloe Sevigny is in something, even on Louie as good as she was I still felt some level of sadness about her as an actor, it's a difficult stigma and I'd love to shake it, but knowing the backstory and what a pointless thing it ultimately was and how Gallo used it and thus her artistic choice as exploitative publicity, I can't.
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Not that I necessarily think they would need to be, but you do know Gallo and Sevigny were lovers before and during filming? Gallo specializes in uncomfortable dramas, and while The Brown Bunny was a poor showing, much of his other work is quite nuanced and sweet, most notably Buffalo '66. The Brown Bunny didn't work like either of them wanted, but the sex never seemed gratuitous. It was ambitiously trying to accomplish something that never completely worked.
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This adoption makes me think about Pucks! (Episodes). This series gets adopted to America where it is slaughtered, and made into a much worse series than the great series the original was.
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I saw the original Danish and also the pilot of this show and it is great. Unfortunately. the pilot is the best of the six episodes, so yes I'd see it done again in the US version but I will have no surprises, which is sad as something could be done good.
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"Every single TV network is making original programming right now, and that means new shows are popping up at all times every day. In fact, by the time you finish reading this sentence, approximately 14 new shows will have debuted somewhere on cable."

Is dis a complant?
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Quality, not quantity.
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if it doesn't have fart jokes, men talking about sex and women whose chest measurements are larger than the national debt, then surette isn't really interested. He should stick to reviewing shows like beavis & butthead; or possibly, at a push, Enlisted.

I saw the first episode of this show and thought it was good; there's underlying stories hinted at that already point to what drives the two emotionally (& possibly psychologically) broken lead characters. But of course all that's way over Surette's head, as are the motives of the killers - you can tell by his review he just doesn't get it without at least a Hooters reference to make things okay. These days I find if Surette hates a show that means I'll love it.... :)
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Sounds like your imagination is way more misogynistic than Tim has ever been.
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Sorry, no lady penis, no deal.
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I've seen the first episode a few days ago and I didn't feel like watching any more. Bleh.
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What? Close to The Following?
uh. No.
For a pilot it was pretty alright. Had some moments, the main character is a little hard to assess but else...
The shows I would compare it are Hannibal, Millenium and being mean maybe Criminal Minds. But The Following? Nah.
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Watching Chloe Sevigny (and her dead eyes) is like watching paint dry. Skip.
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I saw this one and its boring.
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The original wasn't cancelled. In Europe series aren't always milked for new seasons just to make some money.
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I've seen the first episode. Stick with Hannibal... Will graham & Catherine Jensen & Thomas Schaeffer.
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Couldn't even finish watching the pilot. There was absolutely nothing to draw you into the story or characters.
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Bummer. I like Chloe Sevigny, James Morrison and Bruce Davison.
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I MIGHT...and thats a big MIGHT...watch it.
I am cop dramas are getting old. And I am really tired of the european remakes.
There has to be a ton of original ideas out there. If the show only lasted one season in Denmark, what makes anyone think that it could do better here?
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Seems damn awful, you know when you read positive things about the Following that it's a "avoid show"
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yeah, I had to read it three times because my brain couldn't comprehend a sentence that compliments The Following...
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my my was I surprised to read that as well
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+ the facial expression in the first picture makes me cringe
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You're saying thatThe Following is a better show? Well there goes any desire to watch this show.
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somewhat on the disturbing side but not done for shock value like other shows. and generally solid all around.
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Nope. I think Hannibal might be my only show I watch that is close to this genre. I like Bates Motel but I kind of see that as more of a cousin to American Horror Story. But I rolled my eyes at the sight of the first raven in the Following promos. I couldn't stick with Broadchurch and won't watch Gracepoint. I am actually contemplating cancelling HBO after True Blood ends because I don't like Games of Thrones that much so I'm not getting committed.
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Especially shocking is the fact that original danish predecessor is in no way a hit, just incredibly mediocre show with no real fun of thrill in it... Why it was adapted, why?)
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Probably due to the horrendous dearth of creative talent in Hollywood right now.
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Worser than The Following? How can that be? Not going there.
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