: Philippa, I know how fascinated you are with the Grey's, but have you got a favourite?Philippa
: Well my big favourite is Elizabeth Woodville, who married into the grey family. She gets married about 1452 and she marries Sir John Grey and they have two boys, but when the Wars of the Roses start, he volunteers and he goes to fight for Lancaster, and tragically he is killed in the second battle of Albans leading the cavalry charge, So Elizabeth suddenly finds herself a widow and her mother-in-law, Lady Ferrers won't pay her dower. She has no recourse to anybody, except really to the King, Edward IV who happens to be recruiting in the neighbourhood and the story is that she goes out; she stops him on the road and tells him that she needs his justice. Nobody knows exactly what happened, it happened between the two of them, but a month later they are married in secret, and he has to profess to his entire court that he's married this girl from, in a sense, nowhere. Tony
: So a Queen of England could once have been sitting here in her own garden.Philippa
: A Queen of England undoubtedly sat here.