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Why does this season have its own show page?

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    numberonecubsfa

    [1]Jul 18, 2011
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    It's not a new show. It's season 4 of an already existing show.

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    tommy0122

    [2]Jul 20, 2011
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    numberonecubsfa wrote:

    It's not a new show. It's season 4 of an already existing show.



    Because this is the US version which is different....better special effects, better locations (less gloomy) and hopefully no man on man sex scenes.
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    numberonecubsfa

    [3]Jul 20, 2011
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    So because it got some new producers and a bigger budget, it's suddenly not Torchwood? That's iffy logic right there.
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    marknmo

    [4]Jul 21, 2011
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    tommy0122 wrote:
    numberonecubsfa wrote:

    It's not a new show. It's season 4 of an already existing show.



    Because this is the US version which is different....better special effects, better locations (less gloomy) and hopefully no man on man sex scenes.


    The locations were great before, the effects don't matter if the story isn't good, and what's wrong with man on man (ala Jack and Ianto)???

    I agree that this doesn't need it's own home page, cause I'd rather just have one Torchwood show bookmarked rather than having it take up more space in my list with every season we get.
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    numberonecubsfa

    [5]Jul 22, 2011
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    Exactly. It's just a waste of server space and confuses the order of things to split one show into two. Justice League and Justice League unlimited are two different shows, but they didn't get split up because they were continued continuities.
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    Gislef

    [6]Jul 25, 2011
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    Except that Justice League and Justice League Unlimited are produced by the same company, with the same overall production people. Torchwood and Torchwood Miracle Day have a different company footing a majority of the bill and different production companies.

    Happy Days and Joanni Loves Chachi are two different shows, but do get split up even though they have continued continuities. Continued continuities isn't the only criteria. If that were the case, all the Law & Orders, and all the CSIs, would be lumped together into one show each.
    Edited on 07/25/2011 10:32pm
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    marknmo

    [7]Jul 26, 2011
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    But the Law & Orders are spinoffs, and this isn't a spinoff. This is a DIRECT CONTINUATION of the show.
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    numberonecubsfa

    [8]Jul 28, 2011
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    From IMDB's Torchwood page:

    Also Known As:
    "Torchwood: Children of Earth" - USA (third season title)
    "Torchwood: Miracle Day" - USA (fourth season title)

    IMDB doesn't consider it a new show. So why should tv.com?
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    Farmerluk2

    [9]Jul 29, 2011
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    tommy0122 wrote:
    numberonecubsfa wrote:


    It's not a new show. It's season 4 of an already existing show.


    Because this is the US version which is different....better special effects, better locations (less gloomy) and hopefully no man on man sex scenes.
    It is not a US version of Torchwood. Torchwood went international. The cost was shared, with Starz footing a larger share. BBC provided the majority of the producers etc. Basically it's still the same show as it was before. And as for your last comment, you come across as naive, and prejudiced. The main character is portrayed as pansexual, though with a preference for men. This show shouldn't be split into two pages as it just ends up confusing new viewers, and offending original fans who have watched from the beginning and feel snubbed.




    numberonecubsfa wrote:
    From IMDB's Torchwood page:

    Also Known As:
    "Torchwood: Children of Earth" - USA (third season title)
    "Torchwood: Miracle Day" - USA (fourth season title)

    IMDB doesn't consider it a new show. So why should tv.com?


    I agree totally with you on this.

    Edited on 07/29/2011 1:28pm
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    vicbjones

    [10]Aug 4, 2011
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    Farmerluk2 wrote:


    tommy0122 wrote:
    numberonecubsfa wrote:


    It's not a new show. It's season 4 of an already existing show.


    Because this is the US version which is different....better special effects, better locations (less gloomy) and hopefully no man on man sex scenes.
    It is not a US version of Torchwood. Torchwood went international. The cost was shared, with Starz footing a larger share. BBC provided the majority of the producers etc. Basically it's still the same show as it was before. And as for your last comment, you come across as naive, and prejudiced. The main character is portrayed as pansexual, though with a preference for men. This show shouldn't be split into two pages as it just ends up confusing new viewers, and offending original fans who have watched from the beginning and feel snubbed.




    numberonecubsfa wrote:
    From IMDB's Torchwood page:

    Also Known As:
    "Torchwood: Children of Earth" - USA (third season title)
    "Torchwood: Miracle Day" - USA (fourth season title)

    IMDB doesn't consider it a new show. So why should tv.com?


    I agree totally with you on this.


    I totally disagree. Torchwood: Miracle Day and Torchwood: Children of Earth are continuations of the Torchwood series, which ran two seasons. They're no more seasons of Torchwood than The Rockford Files movies were seasons of the original series or the Alien Nation movies were extra seasons of Alien Nation. I'm more inclined to question I Spy Returns being listed as the last episode of I Spy than this series getting its own page. I have no problem with this and the band width TV.com uses is no concern of mine. And why would TV.com make any decisions based on how IMDb chooses to list things?

    Edited on 08/04/2011 8:45pm
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    kanniballl

    [11]Aug 7, 2011
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    IMDB.com and TV.com have different goals.



    IMDB is mostly for listing all of the people involved in a show or film: actors, writers, directors, producers, even the key grips. For that, it makes sense to just put it all in one place since they're listing dozens (if not 100+) for each "entry"


    TV.com is mostly for showing general info about the show, including episode summaries/recaps/reviews/etc. Seperating them isn't a "bad" idea, it makes it easier for someone to find the info and episodes about the show in question... like if someone wanted to find something about Ben 10 Ultimate Alien Force, and didn't know about the other shows, having to dig through all of that would be confusing.



    Children of The Earth was a mini-series that aired after the Torchwood show. And this is another "extension" with a different title. Different title, a mostly entirely different cast, different owners/financers, taking place in the US, it's not a completely silly idea to make it a 3rd entry.


    So it's kind of up to the site how they want to group the 3 seperate enties. For example: Ben 10 is seperated into its shows but BattleStar Galactica combined the mini series with the show.

    Edited on 08/07/2011 9:55am
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