Maybe it's just me, but after four episodes of Treme, everything else on TV just seems depressingly simple and contrived.
Can TV drama get any better than this?
HBO (ended 2013)
This show has grown on me. I think part of my original problem with it was an unrealistically high expectation I have of any series from David Simon after the near- perfection of The Wire. I had the same experience with Generation Kill, and for that matter, I didn't immediately fall in love with The Wire, either ( I felt it started off glacially slow). But in each situation I realized that this is the genius of his particular style; if the viewer invests the time in these carefully nuanced character portraits, the payoff is incredible. I feel that Treme has just gotten to that payoff point for me. Tonight's episode rocked, but it would not have packed nearly the emotional punch without the careful buildup of each character's backstory, including the admittedly slow parts. In short, I'm learning to trust Simon's method. Best show evar? Probably not- that's a near-tie between The Sopranos and The Wire for me- but Treme is pretty good in its own right.
How can you call a Show Best show Ever after just 4 Episodes? There were too many Shows which had one good Season and afterwards they couldn`t keep the high level. In my opinion there you can call a Show one of the Best shows ever after at least three good seasons. Thw Wire, Sopranos, Dexter, Arrested Development...
Right now the best Drama Show on TV is Breaking Bad.
I've had a couple issues with this show so far. Sure, the direction's nice, the writing's superb, but what about the overarching story. Every good show has to have one. The stories I like focus on characters. The characters tell the story, not the other way around. This show seems to follow the latter.
It's a show filled with ideas, but the characters are actually kind of meaningless. They sell the ideas and that's it.I don't feel for them as individuals. Shows like Mad Men and Breaking Bad do the former. They let their characters tell the story, often times conflicting ideas and pitting them against one another. The show makes subtle social commentary, but doesn't use the characters to sell those ideas. The characters still have lives of their own.
In the last couple episodes of Treme, Anton Batiste, serves to show how corruption spreads after Katrina: the stress the NOPD faces because of mismanagement. I'm growing tired of this method. It's obvious, and not at all subtle. The show needs to pick up and sell me some characters. There are moments, but then it goes right back into a rant. Overall, I like it, but am growing frustrated with how overt it's getting.
@NeoBasch: I partially agree. There are indeed moments where the writers' need for social commentary overshadows the characters and their lives as the subject of the show. But most of the time, I still feel like I'm looking at real people in real situations, and I think this show might end up very high in my top 25 best ever shows.
Like a poster said above though, I completely agree that any show needs several seasons to determine whether it's really great / "best show evar" material. Just look at Heroes and Prison Break, with strong first seasons only to diminish after that.
|I like the show but I don't think it is as profound and universal as The Wire and Generation kill (The Wire being my all time favorite tv show). The fact is Treme probably speaks more to those that were close to the repercussion of Katrina, or spent time in New Orleans. For the rest of us (since I've never been there and neither knows anyone from there or affected by Katrina), it's a good show about struggling to make it trough the day and music (I like the music even if I'm not a specialist), but sometimes it feels like those that aren't specialist are left on the side (musically oriented snobbism?). Still I enjoy the show and the evolution of the situation week after week, great social studies.|
@Torrijos: I agree that for now The Wire remains a more profound experience, but I'm willing to give Tremé a little time to really lay down its roots. The Wire needed that period aswell after all.
Also I'm not from the US, so much of the stuff in the show is very new to me. I actually think that's a good thing, so I disagree that the show caters specifically to people from the area or those affected by the disaster. The music is also unfamiliar to me. I'm usually more of a blues / rock fan, but the songs in this show really are amazing. I can't compliment this show enough really.
I really don't think that the story lines are too obvious or over reaching for that matter. But, I am from New Orleans and witnessed the aftermath of Katrina through family members that still live there. These are things that happened, and in the case of Batiste on the show, probably still do. I also do think that you do not need to be a musical snob to appreciate the wonderful cameos. I'm sure many of the real musicians shown are not as well known outside of the Crescent City, but are local legends and in a few cases part of musical dynasties in the city. This is a great show, and I can't wait to see if they show the reopening of the Superdome next season. Who Dat!
I've have never watched the wire but i will be. Treme is one of the most complete pieces of television i have ever seen. Amazing characters, moving personal stories, political intellect, laughs, tears, great direction and filming and a sound track that will never be matched. I have never watch a program or a movie where the music and songs have felt like an extra character in the show. All of this set in what is no doubt one of Americas most defining times. hope they make more. Only down point is that at times i felt like one of the tourists on the Katrina site seeing bus.
I tried to watch Treme when it first aired, and could not get past the first episode. This happens sometimes with a good program, and unfortunately, will discourage some viewers, who will not tune in again. I know David Simon is talented, however, and I knew I would give Treme a second chance, at some point. Fortunately, HBO made all 10 episodes available recently, in preparation for the premiere of Season 2, on April 24.
Over a period of two days, I watched the entire series, and was rewarded with an excellent story. I feel for David Simon - he has to outdo himself, because The Wire is arguably the best drama produced in recent years. Treme is not The Wire, but maybe because I saw it all at once, it came across as an excellent mini-series. It also peaked my interest into portions of New Orleans culture and history that I was not familiar with.
I will be watching Season 2, to see if the stories become even richer - only time will tell.