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Do they even HAVE a military advisor?

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    CeltiKaos

    [1]May 13, 2006
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    Soooo many problems.  Ultimate Farce is going downhill faster than an Olympic skier... it's no surprise to see that it's been pulled this week.  Maybe the Director of Special Forces had a 'quiet' word with the producers about making the SAS into a laughing stock.

    1.  SAS soldiers would not be buried in a public cemetery, but on the base at Sterling Lines.
    2.  Personal discipline is paramount, they would *never* be brawling in public.
    3.  They would NOT be wearing full dress uniform, especially including medals in a pub!
    4.  The most heinous and obvious crime -

    1.  Colonel says they will be in "Azerbaikal" in 90 minutes when they haven't landed in Germany yet.  Assuming 'Azerbaikal' is a thinly veiled reference to Baikal near Irkustsk, Siberia close to the border with Outer Mongolia this gives us a small problem.

    The newest Hercules C130-J has a cruising speed of 450 mph.
    It has a range of 3000 miles.

    Irkustsk (closest major city to Baikal) is 4047 miles from London, 3828 from Frankfurt.

    Assuming the C130 with Red Troop onboard was in German airspace, it would have taken them just under 9 hours flying.

    That ignores the niceties of being out of range, needing to refuel, and get all the kit they needed (quad bikes etc which miraculously seemed to be onboard when they landed.

    I think the script said '15 hours' and either someone read it wrong, or more likely scrubbed it thinking 1.5 hours sounded more dramatic.

    To put this in perspective, to do 4000 miles in 1.5 hours you need to travel 2700mph or Mach 3.55.  The Hercules is a turbo-prop heavy transport.  Not a chance in hell.

    Episode 2.

    1.  "Sergeant Garvie, SAS!".. in public.. oh come on!
    2.  As if an trained SAS trooper would get himself involved in a dodgy drugs deal while on active service.. do me a favour!

    (Not to mention that AFAIK there are no women in the SAS in a combat role.  Heather Peace is a good actress, but the role is a total fabrication).
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    Synplicity_7

    [2]Jun 12, 2006
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    Erm somebody has to get out more, its just a TV program, id like to see you write a program this good and make it 100% correct, so until you do, keep it to yourself.
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    sambishop195

    [3]Nov 7, 2006
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    of course they have military advisors.. its TV... not real life

    "1. SAS soldiers would not be buried in a public cemetery, but on the base at Sterling Lines."
    it is their representation of sterling lines.. do you really think in a public ceremony there would be a rifle party shooting off into the air? i dont think so

    "3. They would NOT be wearing full dress uniform, especially including medals in a pub!"

    notice no public in the pub though? notice cpt fleming happens to be near the pub? ever think it may be on the base?
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    tgawn

    [4]Dec 16, 2006
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    CeltiKaos wrote:
    Soooo many problems.  Ultimate Farce is going downhill faster than an Olympic skier... it's no surprise to see that it's been pulled this week.  Maybe the Director of Special Forces had a 'quiet' word with the producers about making the SAS into a laughing stock.

    1.  SAS soldiers would not be buried in a public cemetery, but on the base at Sterling Lines.
    2.  Personal discipline is paramount, they would *never* be brawling in public.
    3.  They would NOT be wearing full dress uniform, especially including medals in a pub!
    4.  The most heinous and obvious crime -

    1.  Colonel says they will be in "Azerbaikal" in 90 minutes when they haven't landed in Germany yet.  Assuming 'Azerbaikal' is a thinly veiled reference to Baikal near Irkustsk, Siberia close to the border with Outer Mongolia this gives us a small problem.

    The newest Hercules C130-J has a cruising speed of 450 mph.
    It has a range of 3000 miles.

    Irkustsk (closest major city to Baikal) is 4047 miles from London, 3828 from Frankfurt.

    Assuming the C130 with Red Troop onboard was in German airspace, it would have taken them just under 9 hours flying.

    That ignores the niceties of being out of range, needing to refuel, and get all the kit they needed (quad bikes etc which miraculously seemed to be onboard when they landed.

    I think the script said '15 hours' and either someone read it wrong, or more likely scrubbed it thinking 1.5 hours sounded more dramatic.

    To put this in perspective, to do 4000 miles in 1.5 hours you need to travel 2700mph or Mach 3.55.  The Hercules is a turbo-prop heavy transport.  Not a chance in hell.

    Episode 2.

    1.  "Sergeant Garvie, SAS!".. in public.. oh come on!
    2.  As if an trained SAS trooper would get himself involved in a dodgy drugs deal while on active service.. do me a favour!

    (Not to mention that AFAIK there are no women in the SAS in a combat role.  Heather Peace is a good actress, but the role is a total fabrication).

    Your an idiot its just TV!! They can't have it 100% realistic anyway the SAS is the most elite military regiment in the world and they can't give away any tips to an enemy of england when the SAS is a Special Forces divison??? there Ops are top secret and none of the commandos past or present can give away any of the operations, because they are bound by the offical secrets act (which goes for the Australian and the New Zealand Special Air Service).

    Dude you are really Naive saying that Ultimate Force (which happens to be a decent Tv show on instead of the reality crap thats always on) is full of it, because its just TV its not ment to be like real life its for peoples entertainment. So get it together
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    Darren_Gunter

    [5]Jan 10, 2007
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    Do they have a military adviser? only the legend that is chris ryan.
    Edited on 04/03/2007 2:48am
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    hittmann50cal

    [6]Feb 22, 2007
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    yes we are still covered by the act . and its been 9 years...no its not mcnab.
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    hittmann50cal

    [7]Feb 22, 2007
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    no its not chris
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    wildrover8

    [8]Mar 27, 2009
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    Chris Ryan was a co producer but he left after series 2
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    brandoggydog

    [9]Dec 16, 2009
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    what was the start of season 4 all about never watched it after that

    i dont think a writer of a show has raped a viewer as bad they raped us at that point

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    chrisbrighton705

    [10]Jul 14, 2014
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    One bit that annoyed me was only a tiny thing but Jamie Dow who according to everyone used to be a mechanic was in the RLC (Royal Logistic Corp) before passing SAS selection, but that would most likely make him a driver, if he was a mechanic he would have originally been in the REME (Royal Electrical Mechanical Engineers)

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