Veronica Mars

Season 1 Episode 2

Credit Where Credit's Due

Aired Tuesday 9:00 PM Sep 28, 2004 on UPN
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  • Episode Summary

    When Weevil's grandma is arrested for credit card fraud, Veronica and Wallace reluctantly help the investigation to clear her name.

    Meanwhile, Logan's new girlfriend, Caitlin Ford, joins the 09ers in making Veronica's life difficult, while a new arrival in town, Troy Vandegraff, tries to get to know her better.moreless

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    • Love it

      I love this show!
    • Veronica attempts to help out Weevil with credit card fraud issues.

      The second episode of "Veronica Mars" does a great job of taking everything the show did right in the pilot and elaborating on it, filling in the details of some of the supporting characters and widening the scope of the show a bit more. It doesn't feel as jumbled as the pilot did, but it still has that same sense of cleverness and wit that the pilot had. Plus, Kristen Bell is definitely a great lead actress for the show.

      The second episode focuses on Veronica attempting to figure out a way to get Weevil out of juvie after his grandmother and then him get pinned for credit card fraud, sparked by Logan Eckells, who has a major grudge against Weevil. I remember thinking that, in the pilot, Weevil was that typical macho guy who would pop up now and then to annoy the main characters, but I love the way we get a glimpse early on at how different Weevil is than typical macho characters in other TV shows. He's part of this tough biker gang, but he's not afraid to let a young girl detective do the dirty work for him sometimes.

      A lot of the fun in the episode comes from watching Veronica do her thing, interacting with Wallace, the new kid Troy (a character that seemed lame at first but quickly grew on me by the end) and watching the way the show avoids becoming the same type of show that One Tree Hill and Gossip Girl is… Veronica Mars is more gritty, more exciting and well-written. Rob Thomas was also responsible for "Party Down," one of the more impressive comedies on television as of late and cancelled much too early, so it's fun to see how Rob Thomas began his writing career.

      The only dud in the episode is Paris Hilton. Was there any need for her besides stunt-casting? Take her out of the episode and you end up with a very well-done episode. Besides that, I thought the episode was good. I particularly enjoyed watching the way the new police crew is being made out to be these horrible individuals that are incompetent compared to the Mars family. All in all, a good follow-up episode.moreless
    • Review

      It was a good episode, but didn't follow up much on the power of season one. I view this story arch as something that Dexter does with its seasons. It seems that the murder of Lilly Kane is going to be the main story arch to follow this season and a show like Veronica Mars that is going to strecth it into 22 episodes instead of 13 has to do it little by little and not jump too far to the end of the story which would leave for a bad conclusion. This episode focused on Veronica trying to clear Weevils name and trying to get a little more knowledge on the Lilly case. It seems like right now the main complication is Veronica getting involved at all. Right now the entire case is right there for us, but Veronica still has a lot of catching up to do when it comes to the case and all the information her dad has been looking into all these years. I was a little dissapointed that the hotel room "6" wasnt brought up again, still don't know why the episode didn't pick up there. perhaps I missed something and the room was empty at the end of the pilot. Either way, decenet episode but nothing amazing I didnt think.moreless
    • Not the best Veronica but still entertaining.

      Weevil grandmother goes to jail after being framed for credit card fraud so Veronica investigates. Credit Where Credit's Due is a pretty bland episode, the whole story is not the most intriguing while it is pretty obvious Paris has something to do with it. Paris Hilton makes for a very pointless and crappy guest star. She shows no acting talent at all, gladly she is only seen a few times briefly with minimal dialog. Though it contains some cute veronica moments the scene in the diner with her father is good and she looks soo adorable in that hat. The father Daughter hotel act is hilarious too. Troy is introduced well with you actually falling for his charm along with Veronica (damm him). So while the plot for Credit Where Credit's Due is stretch a little thin the episode comes with enough Veronica Mars charm and Character development to make it an enjoyable.moreless
    • After watching this episode, I know I'll love this show. It was funny and the mystery is a great touch!

      The pilot was good but I liked this episode more. It's great how the teen high school story is mixed in with the mystery. It's good because each episode could bring a new case, mystery bit we still have the main one to follow. Which really does interest me, Lily Kane, who killed her?

      Veronica and Wallace's friendship is already enjoyable and it's only just started. I liked how they act around each other, they joke and tease each other. It is even more interesting because Veronica used to be a member of the 'cool' gang in school before her dads involvement in Lily's murder case. Her and Duncan, I can sense them getting back together at some point.

      I liked Veronica's snappy and amusing comments, to the students and her father. I loved when she went into the hotel with her dad Keith and pretended to be pregnant, very funny. And a good twist when Veronica gets a picture of Lily two hours after her alleged time of death, meaning all of her family who had alibi, don't any more.

      Weevil was good here, his grandma was involved in the case of the episode. I liked him when he's nicer. Paris Hilton was okay as her character, typical spoiled teenage girl. I'm not sure about this Troy guy .... anyway, I really do look forward to more!moreless
    Wilmer Calderon

    Wilmer Calderon

    Chardo Navarro

    Guest Star

    Irene Olga Lopez

    Irene Olga Lopez

    Leticia Navarro

    Guest Star

    Zadran Wali

    Zadran Wali


    Guest Star

    Michael Muhney

    Michael Muhney

    Sheriff Don Lamb

    Recurring Role

    Amanda Seyfried

    Amanda Seyfried

    Lilly Kane

    Recurring Role

    Aaron Ashmore

    Aaron Ashmore

    Troy Vandegraff

    Recurring Role

    Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


    • TRIVIA (5)

      • In the Pilot, the lockers, lunch tables, and hallways are different from the ones in this episode and the succeeding episodes. The whole layout of the school changes starting from this episode.

      • The Neptune Pirates sign at the beginning of the episode says "Oceanside Pirates." Oceanside High School is real high school in California near San Diego and their school team's name is the Pirates.

      • In the scene where Weevil visits his grandmother after being released from prison and talks to Veronica you can see the microphone above them for a moment.

      • While at the diner with her father, Veronica tells Sheriff Lamb "smell ya later." This leads her father to ask "smell ya later?" While the camera is on him we clearly see Veronica put her hat back on. Then when the camera is back on her the hat is nowhere to be seen.

      • In the final scene of this episode when Veronica is entering the sheriff's station by climbing some steps, you can see the shadow of the camera clearly on the ground.

    • QUOTES (20)

      • Ms. Dent: This is a 35mm camera. Now, my suggestion, as you're starting out, is to
        set it on auto...
        Veronica: I'd really be more comfortable if I could just use my own camera. Uhm, the swivel LCD really comes in handy when you're doing overhead shooting or ground-level macro shooting.
        Ms. Dent: Right.
        Veronica: The optical zoom actually goes up to 71.2 millimeters and it's good to have the raw-file option to mess with the images post-exposure without nearly the loss of image quality you'd get with a JPEG file.
        Ms. Dent: And when it's dark outside, you should use a flash.

      • Wallace: Another big Friday night. You got plans?
        Veronica: I don't know. I might take Backup for a run or rent a movie maybe.
        Wallace: Congratulations. You're officially Neptune High's most boring person.
        Veronica: Did I mention the movie might be PG-13?
        Wallace: Ow! Jump back, wild child!

      • Veronica: Confess, it's good for the soul.
        Chardo: What?
        Veronica: The moron says 'what'.
        Chardo: What?

      • Veronica: (voiceover) My friends jumped on the bandwagon as well. They gave me a choice. I could stand by my dad or stand by Duncan and my dead best friend's family. I chose dad. It's a decision I live with every day.

      • Lilly: Well you know what my mom says. You have to kiss a few toads. That's it. That's her entire philosophy.
        Veronica: All your mom ever says to me is, (imitates Lilly's mom) 'Veronica, shouldn't you be getting home soon?'

      • Veronica: Wallace, King Kong ain't got nothing on you.

      • Veronica: I gotta run. The counselor wants to see me before class.
        Keith: About what?
        Veronica: Uh, my schedule and my attitude, not necessarily in that order. Her words.

      • Veronica: Weevil, your grandma's in jail.
        Weevil: Oh, are you reminding me, 'cause I almost forgot.

      • Veronica: (voiceover) The trouble with befriending the leader of a motorcycle gang is that at the end of the day, he's still the leader of a motorcycle gang.

      • Troy: What do you say, dog? You ready to get this party started? You ready to burn this mother down? Up, jump... the boogie.

      • Troy: Are you always this persnickety?
        Veronica: Sometimes I'm even persnicketier.

      • Logan: Tell the truth, Veronica. Did you just sign up for newspaper so you could be around Duncan?
        Veronica: (sarcastically) No, I'm here so I could be closer to you.

      • Troy: Well a wise man once said that a 'No' is like a 'Yes' except with different letters and arranged in a different order and spoken out loud but, you know, it disappears on the wind.

      • Veronica: I printed out the entire browser history from Logan Echolls' computer in his fourth period computer lab class.
        Wallace: So is he guilty?
        Veronica: Well, of wanting desperately to see pictures of Alyssa Milano naked, yes.

      • Wallace: Yeah, you realize, don't you, that this guy you're trying to help out duct-taped me butt naked to a flagpole just last week?
        Veronica: Man, you really hold a grudge.
        Wallace: Yeah, I'm funny that way.

      • Ms. Dent: Duncan Kane, this is Veronica. Veronica's going to be taking pictures tomorrow, and I arranged for you to ride with Bodie's parents.
        Duncan: I'll drive.
        Ms Dent: Great, maybe Veronica can...
        Veronica: I can drive too.
        Ms Dent: Okay. Oil crisis be damned.

      • Duncan: Wanna go meet the locals or what?
        Troy: As long as they're humble, God-fearing, salt-of-the-earth types.
        Duncan: Every last one of them.

      • Veronica: I'm Veronica.
        Troy: Really? Veronica. Okay yeah that, that does make a lot more sense.
        Veronica: Makes more sense how?
        Troy: Ah, it's nothing. I just...I should never listen (glances at Logan and his friends) to those guys. I mean really, who names their daughter Trampy McBitch?

      • Troy: Flat?
        Veronica: Just as God made me.

      • Wallace: Do I look like James Bond to you?
        Veronica: Am I asking you to retrieve a nuclear warhead - no.

    • NOTES (4)

    • ALLUSIONS (6)

      • Veronica: I should have walked to Gold Coast. It's only thirty miles but with the awkward silence, it feels like 300. In five seconds, I'm just going to do the Charlie's Angel-roll right out of the moving car.

        Charlie's Angels was originally a TV show airing between 1976-1981, about three hazardous duty bound female detectives in Charles Townsend Detective Agency. The original angels were Kate Jackson, Farrah Fawcett and Jaclyn Smith. At the beginning of this millennium the brand was renewed with two feature films starring Drew Barrymore, Lucy Liu and Cameron Diaz as Charlie's modern angels.

      • Duncan: You're the one who wanted to come down and get jiggy wit' it.

        Refers to the expression Will Smith made common with his 1998 single Gettin' Jiggy Wit It from his album Big Willie.

      • Troy: What do you say, dog? You ready to get this party started? You ready to burn this mother down? Up jump.. the boogie?

        Troy knows his music as he quickly goes through heavy metal, disco and hip-hop in his party references.
        "You ready to get this party started" directly quote from and is the title of the heavy metal band KoRn's song from the 1999 album Issues.
        His disco referring "..burn this mother down" is an almost direct quote from the title cut of The Trammps 1976 album Disco Inferno.
        And finally "Up jump.. the boogie" directly quote from and refers to The Sugarhill Gang's 1979 single Rapper's Delight, which is considered the song popularizing hip-hop in both US and the rest of the world.

      • Veronica: Wallace, King Kong ain't got nothing on you.

        King Kong is the enormous gorilla from the fictional Skull Island, who has appeared in several works, most of which bear his name, including the groundbreaking 1933 film, the film remakes of 1976 and 2005, and numerous sequels and paraphernalia. In actuality Veronica is complimenting Wallace by misquoting a line from the 2001 film Training Day

      • Weevil: Veronica Mars, I hear you're the one to thank for this kodak moment. Didn't you get the memo? The bad guy was already in jail. Gimme some love.
        Kodak Moments were used as an advertising campaign in the late 1980s. Commercials at the time took photos of "Kodak Moments" which were special events.

      • Veronica: Smell ya later.

        "Smell ya later" is the popular catchphrase of The Simpsons neighborhood bully Nelson. The farewell is an obvious adaptation of "see ya later."