Veronica Mars

Season 3 Episode 8

Lord of the Pi's

Aired Tuesday 9:00 PM Nov 21, 2006 on UPN
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  • Episode Summary

    Keith and Veronica are hired to help find the missing grand-daughter of the founder of Hearst College, whose swing vote could spell the end of fraternities and sororities at Hearst.

    Meanwhile, Logan fears for Veronica's safety as she gets closer to the truth regarding the campus rapes.

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    • Keith and Veronica are hired to help find the missing grand-daughter of the founder of Hearst College. Logan fears for Veronica's safety as she gets closer to the truth regarding the campus rapes.moreless

      Keith and Veronica are hired to help find the missing grand-daughter of the founder of Hearst College, whose swing vote could spell the end of fraternities and sororities at Hearst. Meanwhile, Logan fears for Veronica's safety as she gets closer to the truth regarding the campus rapes. sweet sweet logan...
    • Wow! So we solved part of the rape mystery! This was a really good episode!

      WOW! I have been really impressed with "Of Vice and Men" "Lord of the Pi's" and "Spit and Eggs"

      I thought they were 3 GREAT episodes!

      The end of this episode really had me wanting more! I can't believe that's why the girls were faking the rapes!

      I kind of understnad why the did it - but they should have come up with a better plan...

      And the fact that Logan saw Veronica dodging his calls was kind of sad to see!

      But I don't hate Veronica for it, cause I know how it feels to just not want to see a person whenever your just not in the mood to see that person!

      So yes - I really liked this episode!

      (All three of them!)

      THey were all REALLY good!

      Season 3 is starting to grow on me - as well as Parker!

      GO PARKER!moreless
    • not the best episode, but the LoVe moments were worth it

      who else cried a little at the little emotional fight that logan and veronica had? who else full out cried when logan saw veronica look at her cell phone, see it was him, and put it away? this episode was the most heartbreaking episode that i think i have seen yet. when logan confronts veronica about how he doesnt think she really wants in it, that was the saddest moment ever. I dont even remember most of the actual patti hearst stuff or whatever.. i just remember she went missing for some reason.. she had dogs.. she really wasnt missing.. ya i didnt really pay attention to any of that actual stuff that didnt mean much, i just loved the LoVe moments.moreless
    • Setting it all up: Logan vs Piz?

      My heart is breaking for poor Logan. It is obvious that in the future a plot twist will be Veronica and Piz getting it on, but first the writers must get Logan out of the way. Really, who wants this to happen? On one hand you\\\'ve got a hot, rich bad boy, super protective and sassy, whom veronica has a long history with. One the other hand, you\\\'ve got some naive, boy next door air head music dude, who ahs no idea how great veronica is or what she\\\'s been through. The Logan/Veronica Relationships is more sympathetic, raunchy and malleable for plot twists than the puppy love of the possible Piz/Veronica fling. It remind me of the Buffy/Riley relationship in Buffy. He was boring and veiwers hated him. Boring! The main girl has to stick with the bad boy hottie who secretly has a heart of gold, it\\\'s the only recipe for fantastic tv romance! Anyway, what would Veronica do if she wasnt investigating her criminal boyfriend all the time?moreless
    • Wow.....i never knew Logan was so protective and caring! What a great guy.....Veronica so didn't need to get bent out of shape for what he did!

      Logan hiring a bodyguard for Veronica was one of the sweetest things a guy can do for a girl!!!

      She so shouldn't have gotten bent out of shape for that...he only meant well.

      I mean what else did she expect the guy to do?

      He finds his girlfriend lying unconcious on the ground in a parking garage...she was drugged and if he hadn't gotten there in time, she would have probably been give the guy a little break for wanting to ensure that she was safe.

      She told him that she was how was he suppose to know that she was spooked the whole week because she thought someone was following her!

      If she was open and honest with him from the beginning...he would have told her that he hired a bodyguard for her...and she wouldn't have been spooked!

      Anyway, i love this whole new protective angle to Logan...Veronica better come to her senses, before she loses him for good!!!moreless
    Charles Shaughnessy

    Charles Shaughnessy

    Budd Rose

    Guest Star

    Cher Ferreyra

    Cher Ferreyra

    Fern Delgado

    Guest Star

    Michael Charles Roman

    Michael Charles Roman

    Wilson Behan

    Guest Star

    Brandon Hillock

    Brandon Hillock

    Deputy Jerry Sacks

    Recurring Role

    David Tom

    David Tom

    Chip Diller

    Recurring Role

    Chastity Dotson

    Chastity Dotson

    Nish Sweeney

    Recurring Role

    Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


    • TRIVIA (0)

    • QUOTES (16)

      • Selma Rose: Have you ever been a walking punch line, Mr. Mars? I mean, on a national scale?
        Keith: Actually...

      • (Veronica is on the phone with her father)
        Veronica: Beer off your belly, hand out of your boxers, put on some pants. I'm bringing home a visitor.

      • Nish: Well, I'm impressed with your tenacity, if not your politics.
        Veronica: I can die happy.

      • Veronica: I have spent the last few days being terrified that I had some whacked-out rapist following me!
        Logan: Look, I had the same fear.
        Veronica: So you pay someone to tail me?
        Logan: No, so I asked you to stop putting yourself in danger, and you told me to piss off. Then I hired someone to protect you.
        Veronica: You had no right to do that.
        Logan: Look, that's probably true... okay? It's just I don't care.
        Veronica: You don't care?
        Logan: Look, I don't give a rat's ass if it's right or fair. I don't care if you're angry. I care that you're safe.
        Veronica: That's all sweet and great, but it doesn't really work that way. It's not like this is all some new facet of my personality. You know who I am! You know what I do.
        Logan: And?
        Veronica: And... it isn't gonna change. And if you can't accept that, this isn't gonna work.
        Logan: You know who I am. And you're constantly expecting me to change. And even right now, as you're thinking, 'crap, he's got a point', you still think you're ultimately right. (he pauses) I love you, Veronica. I love you. But, do you love me?
        Veronica: Yeah.

      • Dean O'Dell: An extremely wealthy woman disappears in the middle of a reception held in her honor. Don't you find that, I don't know, odd?
        Lamb: Well, I mean, there's 'odd' and there's 'foul play'. Rich ladies aren't the most reliable creatures.
        Dean O'Dell: Of course, she must have remembered her tennis lesson. How silly of her to forget. I don't suppose there's someone I can speak with who would take this seriously.
        Lamb: Dollars to doughnuts, you'll find her sobbing into a mojito at the club because she lost an earring.
        Dean O'Dell: Well, you'd be the doughnut expert.

      • Logan: Just stop digging around. Okay? No more looking into the serial rapes. No more putting your nose where it doesn't belong.
        Veronica: My nose kind of belongs wherever I decide to put it.
        Logan: I'm worried about you. Okay? I want you to stop now. I'm not kidding.
        Veronica: Kind of a one-eighty, isn't it? Can we rewind a week? Cue it up to the part where you were asking me to exonerate your Mexican vacation buddy, Mercer.
        Logan: That was before you were attacked. Why can't you for once just leave things alone?
        Veronica: Okay, now you're starting to piss me off.

      • Keith: This is my daughter, Veronica. She works with me... occasionally.
        Veronica: Ryan. Tatum. When he gets in a jam, I make with the cute.

      • Dick: What the hell, Bonnie?!
        Bonnie: That's exactly what I was thinking. Another cute frat boy... what the hell?
        Dick: You realize you're like half the points now. You went from top shelf to bargain basement in like three seconds.
        Bonnie: It was more like the third floor bathroom to the pinball machine in like forty-seven minutes.

      • Keith: Hey! You might want to stop yelling at my daughter.
        Logan: Yeah? You might want to start.

      • Veronica: The incredible inedible egg.

      • Wallace: Man, all of my orifices just went on lockdown.

      • Veronica: The park is closed. The walrus out front should have told you.
        Keith: Honey, stealthy, remember?
        Veronica: Right! Sorry.

      • Dean O'Dell: The Sheriff is an idiot. I've met smarter sandwiches.

      • Dick: Someone put a Roman numeral on one of those little plastic Easter eggs... and stuck it in his where-the-sun-don't-shine place. And you know where that is.
        Veronica: Worst Easter egg hunt ever.

      • (Keith and Veronica break into a mansion)
        Veronica: This is just like that time we went to Disneyland! If I have another altercation with Snow White and her disapproving dwarfs, you're taking Sneezy this time.

      • Fern: Why are you following me around?
        Veronica: Fulfilling my gym requirement. Yoga had a written final.

    • NOTES (2)

    • ALLUSIONS (15)

      • Veronica: The park is closed.
        Veronica's line "The park is closed. The walrus out front should have told you." is an allusion to National Lampoon's Vacation's line: "Sorry folks, park's closed. Moose out front shoulda told ya."

      • After Veronica jumps down from the wall to enter the Hearst Rose compound, she makes the jumping sound from the old Six Million Dollar Man and Bionic Woman show.

      • Veronica: 'The Female Voice in Celtic Literature.' I am woman, hear me bore.

        Reference to "I'm a woman, hear me roar," the first line of the feminist anthem "I Am Woman" by pop singer Helen Reddy.

      • Veronica: Ryan... Tatum...

        This refers to Tatum O'Neal and Ryan O'Neal, real-life daughter and father, who teamed up for the movie Paper Moon (1973). Tatum O'Neal won an Oscar for her performance. She was 10 years old and became the youngest person to win this award in a competitive category.

      • Hallie: What's next? Do you wanna know where I buried Jimmy Hoffman?
        Veronica: Dustin's brother?

        Hallie is incorrectly referring to Jimmy Hoffa and calls him Jimmy Hoffman by mistake. Veronica catches her slip and makes her own reference to Dustin Hoffman to surreptitiously make fun of Hallie's ignorance.

        Jimmy Hoffa was an American labor leader with ties to the Mafia. He is well-known in popular culture for the mysterious circumstances surrounding his still-unexplained disappearance and presumed death. Dustin Hoffman is the well-known actor whose breakthrough role was in the 1967 film, The Graduate.

      • Hallie: Mr. Brant's assistant? He's, like, in love with Mr. Rose. Like Swimfan in love.

        Hallie refers to the 2002 movie, Swimfan. In this movie, a girl named Keirsten transfers to Chris's school and seduces him. He then rejects her in favor of his girlfriend. She becomes obsessed with him and turns his life into a living hell.

      • Dick: Not only did Chip get Kojak'ed...

        Kojak was a gritty US detective TV series which ran on CBS from 1973 to 1978. Kojak starred Telly Savalas as a bald New York City policeman lieutenant.

      • The scene when Keith is inspecting the plaques on the wall is (yet another) ode to The Big Lebowski, going so far as to have the assistant also named Brandt, also asking about (and being told not to touch) a plaque on the wall, and the husband being in a wheelchair.

      • Patty Hearst plays Selma Hearst-Rose.

        Patty and Selma are Marge's twin sisters on The Simpsons. The actress who plays Selma, allegedly a kidnap victim in this episode, was kidnapped in 1974 by the Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA) and held for ransom. Her family met the demands of the SLA, but Patty was not released.

      • Fern: Hey, Buffy!

        Fern calls Veronica "Buffy". Veronica Mars is often compared to Buffy Summers, another female teen hero and title character of the TV series Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

      • Veronica: Apparently Brant is the Smithers to Mr. Rose's Monty Burns.

        This refers to the feelings that Waylon Smithers has for Mr. Burns on The Simpsons.

      • Veronica: She always gets a replay, never tilts at all.

        This is from the song "Pinball Wizard" by The Who.

      • Veronica: Worst Easter egg hunt ever.

        This is a reference to the Comic-Book Guy's one-liner, from The Simpsons, "Worst episode ever."

      • Veronica: The Incredible Inedible Egg

        This is a reference to the American Egg Board's advertising slogan "The Incredible Edible Egg".

      • Episode Title: Lord of the Pi's

        This is a play on the book which was adapted into the film Lord of the Flies (1963).