Veronica Mars

Season 2 Episode 9

My Mother, the Fiend

Aired Tuesday 9:00 PM Nov 30, 2005 on UPN
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  • Episode Summary

    After finding her mother's old permanent record, Veronica wonders how well she knew her mother at all, and decides to investigate her old school friends. Meanwhile, Trina takes the role of director in the school play, and has a confrontation with Kendall.

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    • So Keyser Soze was Vice Principal Van Clemmons!

      So Keyser Soze was Vice Principal Van Clemmons!

      Who knew?
    • Not A Very Strong Episode

      After finding her mother's old permanent record, Veronica wonders how well she knew her mother at all, and decides to investigate her old school friends. Meanwhile, Trina takes the role of director in the school play, and has a confrontation with Kendall.

      The only really compelling part of this episode that should carry over into any long-term story arch is the very final scene of the episode where Veronica walks into Meg's room and finds out that she is with child. Meg then slowly opens her eyes as the screen cuts out. This is what happens when you watch the first five episodes and then stop watching for four months and try to pick back up again. I assumed that Meg was dead - but she's not. She is in fact alive and well and looking to start some drama soon I will assume. The entire rest of the episode wasn't as entertaining however. Veronica goes digging into her mother's past in a plan put forth by the Vice Principal to try and remove the Principal from his office. His plan worked as Veronica exposes the truth to the Kane's adopted older daughter and is removed from his principal duties. Other then that - what is there really to talk about this episode? Nothing new with the bus. Wallace is still MIA. They're trying to dumb Cassidy on us as a main character. Nothing from Weidman.moreless
    • What difference a letter can make...

      So, hmm, where do I start.

      Okay, well, I didn't see any of the twists coming to be honest. The episode was nicely constructed and there was a nice conclusion too, so all in all, it was superb.

      Liked Veronica and Duncan carrying the baby all the time during the episode, was rather funny and a cool connection with the episode's ending.

      Also liked Cassidy making a deal with Kendall. Oh, and there's some obvious chemistry between Cassidy and Mac, which was nice too. Loved Logan beating up and then humiliating Weevil. And the bathroom scene was a classic. They agreed to team up just so they can beat up each other up... pretty bad and for pretty long.

      2 recurring character reappared: Celeste and Trina. Well, they were good, especially Trina and her hunger for fame. Though the end when she hugs her real mother was really emotional which I liked.

      Clemmons playing Veronica into getting the principal fired was clever and I totalyl didn't see it coming... I guess I keep saying that, but honestly, this show never ceases to surprise me.

      Surely, the biggest punch was the ending with Meg being pregnant and waking up - now finally Duncan's behaviour makes sense.moreless
    • I feel like I'm running out of great things to say about this show and especially this season. This episode looks into Veronica's Mom's high school life as the main plot line.moreless

      While V is being punished for being caught with school keys, she stumbles upon her mom's old permanent file at Neptune High. She looks into the case of why her mom was suspended. It leads her to a case of a "prom baby" that she believes belonged to Celeste Kane. Veronica also discovers the Rat that Keith found on the bus, so he must explain to her why there is a dead rat in their freezer.

      Weevil confronts Logan that they both need to find who killed Felix and "team up." But before they can do this they get into a (too long) fight in the bathroom.

      The episode ends with Veronica gathering Abel Koontz's things and decides to check on Meg. The real version of the show has her discovering Meg's Pregnancy but in the alternate ending on the DVD she discovers Meg with a pillow over her head that her mom placed there, but saves her from suffocating. I am glad they kept the original.moreless
    • After finding her mother's old permanent record, Veronica wonders how well she knew her mother at all, and decides to investigate her old school friends. Meanwhile, Trina takes the role of director in the school play, and has a confrontation with Kendall.moreless

      After finding her mother's old permanent record, Veronica wonders how well she knew her mother at all, and decides to investigate her old school friends.

      Meanwhile, Trina takes the role of director in the school play, and has a confrontation with Kendall. oh trina & kendall are adorable..and celeste is so..ughhhh
    Enrico Colantoni

    Enrico Colantoni

    Keith Mars

    Francis Capra

    Francis Capra

    Eli "Weevil" Navarro

    Jason Dohring

    Jason Dohring

    Logan Echolls

    Kristen Bell

    Kristen Bell

    Veronica Mars

    Kyle Gallner

    Kyle Gallner

    Cassidy "Beaver" Casablancas

    Teddy Dunn

    Teddy Dunn

    Duncan Kane

    Kari Coleman

    Kari Coleman

    Mrs. Deborah Philipina Hauser

    Guest Star

    John Bennett Perry

    John Bennett Perry

    Principal Alan Moorehead

    Guest Star



    Mary Mooney

    Guest Star

    Alona Tal

    Alona Tal

    Meg Manning

    Recurring Role

    Duane Daniels

    Duane Daniels

    Van Clemmons

    Recurring Role

    Lisa Thornhill

    Lisa Thornhill

    Celeste Kane

    Recurring Role

    Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


    • TRIVIA (8)

      • In the blacked out form where Lianne gets suspended, it declares that she will be suspended for three days. However, the dates listed for suspension are 11/05/79 - 11/10/79. Since November 5, 1979 was a Monday, this would have been a 5 day suspension.

      • When Kendall arrives at the hotel room, the shadow of a boom mic is visible on the wall in the upper right hand corner of the screen.

      • When Veronica asks Mary Mooney if she knew her mother, the answer (according to Veronica) was that Lianne was a fiend. But obviously she missed one letter in the word, as later we find out that Mary meant that Lianne was a friend.

      • Veronica and Mary are typing to each other on Veronica's laptop. Veronica writes "What did my mother do to hurt you?" to which Mary replies "Hurt? Your mother was my friend". Mary doesn't press the H key on the keyboard to start the sentence which is obviously needed to write the first word.

      • When Logan and Weevil are fighting in the bathroom and the VP pulls Logan off Weevil (who's being pulled off by the security guy), an elbow dressed in a black T-shirt, most likely the boom mic operator on the crew, is visible briefly.

      • It was said in a previous episode that Lianne graduated from high school in 1979; however, it was mentioned that she was still in high school in 1980 in this episode.

      • When Veronica carries the baby into Duncan's room, the baby's feet are pointing forward. Then when she comes into the bedroom, the baby's feet are facing the opposite way.

      • When Trina fell down after stepping on the skull, her head gear fell off. But when Veronica went to her, the head gear was on again.

    • QUOTES (13)

      • Principal Moorehead: Veronica. I see that Mr. Clemmons is failing in his prime directive.
        Veronica: What's that?
        Principal Moorehead: Keeping you out of my face.

      • Principal Moorehead: Neptune Players will be holding open audition for Hamlet all week... and I am especially proud to announce this year's special celebrity director, television and screen star, not to mention NHS alum, Miss Trina Echolls...
        Veronica: (voiceover) Principal Moorehead, you old star-stroker. If Logan's sister is back in Neptune, that must mean she was the first one booted off The Surreal Life this season.

      • Veronica: Trina, I was lying. That whole bit about wanting to try out for the play, a lie. The truth is... as a baby, you were left in a Neptune High girl's bathroom on prom night twenty-five years ago.
        Trina: No way. Ashton Kutcher is hiding somewhere, right? Ashton, come out! You can't get me that easy.
        Veronica: Trina, I'm dead serious.
        Trina: Okay. If you're joking, you really can act, you're a natural.

      • Trina: What, so you mean my mother was, like, one of those trashy sluts that dumped me in a garbage can?
        Veronica: I'm pretty sure Celeste Kane is your mom.
        Trina: (joyfully) Well, there's worse news you could've given me. They've got billions!

      • Trina: Look, it's lunch lady Doris. Doris was so nice to me when I went here. Used to always give me extra cake.
        Veronica: Actually, her name is Mary.
        Trina: Really? I guess, I just decided to call her Doris.

      • Trina: You know, when I was a kid, I used to imagine that someday I'd find out my parents were, like, movie stars.
        Veronica: Trina, your parents actually were movie stars.
        Trina: I mean my real parents.

      • Trina: Hey, pops. Hope I'm interrupting.
        Principal Moorehead: Trina! Glad to see you're feeling better, I'd heard that you were…
        Trina: At death's door? And when exactly were you planning to hook me up with a little bone marrow?
        Principal Moorehead: Perhaps, we should take this outside.
        Trina: Oh, come on, Dad. It's the least you can do for your daughter after dumping me in the john on prom night.

      • Veronica: (talking to her fake baby) Ever hear of genetics, kid? Thanks to your grandma, I've got a 50-50 shot of becoming an alkie. Guess that makes your odds 1 in 4, which isn't so bad. Oh, and there's also this latent mean girl gene. You're lucky you're made out of plastic.

      • Keith: Almost started without you. You'd have missed out on my chili surprise.
        Veronica: You made chili?
        Keith: Surprise.

      • Mrs. Hauser: Since you all had such a raucous good time with venereal diseases, I'm sure you'll be thrilled with phase two of Sex Ed. Ladies and gentlemen... (takes animatronic baby out of box) Welcome to Parenthood.
        Veronica: So that's where babies come from.

      • Veronica: When you met her [Lianne], she was still a cool person right?
        Keith: Of course she was cool, she married me, didn't she?

      • Vice-Principal Clemmons: Let me get this straight. You want follow up on what I explicitly forbade you from doing yesterday?
        Veronica: Umm...yes.

      • Celeste: What is she doing here?
        Veronica: 'She' meaning me? I guess I'm here as Duncan's secret girlfriend. Oh, and we have a love child. (picks up fake baby) Want to hold her? She's snuggly.
        Celeste: I'll pass.

    • NOTES (4)

    • ALLUSIONS (4)

      • Trina: Look, it's Lunchlady Doris. Doris was so nice to me when I went here. Used to always give me extra cake. Lunchlady Doris is a character from the Simpsons but, considering it's Alyson Hannigan who says this, it seems more likely that it's an allusion on the lunchlady who tried to kill everyone a Sunnydale High on Buffy the Vampre Slayer.

      • Vice-Principal Clemmons: More alphabetising, less cold-casing.

        After sentencing Veronica to archiving old school files, Clemmons gives this less than subtle reference to the TV show Cold Case starring Kathryn Morris as Lilly Rush. Rush being the, equally to Veronica, blond and energetic lead detective designated all old and unsolved murder cases stored away in boxes awaiting new evidence or witnesses coming forward.

      • Veronica: You read Machiavelli this summer, didn't you?

        Veronica is referring to Niccolò Machiavelli (1469-1527), author of The Prince, a book about ways for a leader to stay in power and regain lost power.

      • Trina: ... Ashton Kutcher is hiding somewhere, right? Ashton come out.

        Trina thinks she is being "punked" and alludes to the MTV series which features Ashton Kutcher.

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