Veronica Mars

Season 3 Episode 7

Of Vice and Men

Aired Tuesday 9:00 PM Nov 14, 2006 on UPN
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    The Veronica Mars Season 3 Dossier: Episodes 5-8

    In the next four episodes of Season 3, Veronica continues adjusting to college life... and the main plot takes a turn for the downright troubling.

  • Episode Summary

    Veronica helps a girl named Meryl who is certain that her boyfriend is in trouble, while a jaded Veronica tries to convince her that he is cheating.

    Meanwhile, Logan reluctantly tells Veronica why he is sure Mercer didn't commit the rapes, and Keith finds that there is a heavy price to pay for committing adultery.moreless

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    Amanda Walsh

    Amanda Walsh


    Guest Star

    Andrew McClain

    Andrew McClain

    Moe Slater

    Guest Star

    Charlie Weber

    Charlie Weber


    Guest Star

    Ken Marino

    Ken Marino

    Vincent "Vinnie" Van Lowe

    Recurring Role

    Ryan Devlin

    Ryan Devlin

    Mercer Hayes

    Recurring Role

    Patrick Fabian

    Patrick Fabian

    Professor Hank Landry

    Recurring Role

    Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


    • TRIVIA (4)

      • Just after Meryl leaves Veronica's car outside the River Stix a police car can be seen in the background. If Veronica wanted a police officer she only needed to turn her head.

      • In this episode, Keith breaks up with Harmony Chase because Veronica doesn't approve of the relationship. It's the second time he ends a relationship in order to please his daughter. The first time was in Season 1 Episode 5 ("You Think You Know Somebody") when he broke up with Rebecca James, Neptune High School's guidance counselor.

      • This is the second time Veronica has been drugged by GHB. The first time was at Shelly Pomeroy's party.

      • When Veronica is found by Logan by her car drugged and part of her head shaved with some blood spots on her skull, you can tell that the perpetrator did not use a clipper guard. For the other girls that were drugged, raped and shaved, their heads are not shaved closely that you see spots of blood on their skulls, but left about quarter inch of hair - meaning the perpetrator used a clipper guard.

    • QUOTES (16)

      • Veronica: I ran Sully's cards again. There were a bunch of charges from last night, all in this neighborhood.
        Meryl: Charges from where?(Veronica sighs)
        Veronica: Circus of Liquors, Crazy Girls, World of Cigarettes.
        (Meryl takes a moment to digest this diary of debauchery)
        Meryl: At least he's okay, right?
        Veronica: I guess we can rule out kidnapping... unless he was abducted by the Insane Clown Posse.

      • Logan: I am your boyfriend, Veronica, and you're treating me like a criminal.
        Veronica: You could have told all this to Lamb.
        Logan: By the time we got out of the room, the fire was spreading. The whole motel was going up in flames. Okay, w-- And, I don't know, we had to get out of there.
        Veronica: You didn't stick around to try to help? You didn't see if everyone was okay?
        Logan: You know, it's because of the look on your face right now that I didn't want to tell you.

      • Veronica: Hey, what are you still doing here? Didn't Logan—
        Mercer: Yeah. He came by and talked to the sheriff last night. Thanks, by the way.
        Veronica: Why are you still here?
        Mercer: Oh, there's something about my attitude the sheriff has found lacking. He's decided to keep me here as long as he's allowed under law. Uh, Logan's picking me up for breakfast tomorrow, if you want to come with.
        Veronica: Doubtful.

      • Logan: Something tells me this isn't a booty call.
        Veronica: I got what you need to get Mercer out of jail. It's yours, Logan. No one has to know where you were that night... no one except me.
        Logan: Can you leave it alone? Can you trust me?
        Veronica: No, I can't. I'm not built that way.
        Logan: Who gets blackmailed by his girlfriend? Oh, I guess I do.

      • Veronica: How bad does your alibi have to be if Mercer would rather stay in jail than divulge it? Huh? Maybe I don't want to know what you were up to.
        Logan: When have you ever not wanted to know anything?

      • Veronica: You tell me your friend couldn't have raped a girl because he was with you this summer. Then you won't tell me what you were doing or why you can't come forward to provide an alibi, so how exactly do you propose to make things right? Are you gonna hypnotize me?
        Logan: I don't know. I was hoping your desire to find the real rapist might outweigh your need to drag me over the coals.
        Veronica: Who says I can't do both?

      • Veronica: What are you doing here?
        Piz: Oh, that, yeah. Uh, I live here. This is my room. That's my bed. You remember my guitar. That's where it gently weeps.
        Veronica: You're supposed to be cramming in a motel, like in The Paper Chase?
        Piz: You mean The Shining? All work and no play makes Wallace psychotic.

      • Veronica: We'll get help. We'll call the sheriff.
        Meryl: You mean the moron?
        Veronica: He's a well-armed moron.

      • Meryl: Look, I was just thinking. Sully told me that in his physics class, they're working with lasers. So, what if Sully accidentally discovered some new technology, you know, like some kind of laser cannon that could assassinate people from space or something? He could be running from, I don't know, sinister forces!
        Veronica: Have you ever heard of Occam's razor, Meryl?
        Meryl: Is that a space laser? Has it already been invented?

      • Meryl: Can I see him?
        Lamb: You got ten bucks? (Meryl looks around to Veronica who shakes her head.) Kidding! I'll have someone let you back there in a minute.

      • Veronica: Hey, you didn't really send that picture message to my dad, did you?
        Vinnie: Well if I did it was a miracle. The phone didn't have a camera on it.

      • Piz: There's a girl in my bed.
        Veronica: Yeah buddy! (Piz looks at Veronica expecting an explanation.) It took a double shot of night time cold medicine to get her down, it also stopped her sniffling. She's pretty worked up about her boyfriend.
        Piz: Understandable, but, um, where am I sleeping?
        Veronica: Well if you play your cards right...the floor.

      • Veronica: I dig the outfit, is that from Dolce and Gabbana's study buddy collection?

      • Veronica: Look, Dad. Do what you gotta do, OK? I've seen too much working here to ever be surprised again.
        Keith: I know you Veronica, you're not that jaded.
        Veronica: I didn't use to be. I had this one shining example, that gave me some faith.

      • Veronica: (voiceover) So what would Stan Marsh say in a situation like this? I think we all learned a valuable lesson about faith. You give it to the people you love. But the people who really deserve it, are the ones who come through even when you don't love them enough.

      • Veronica: (voiceover) Consider my mind blown... and then put back together and blown again.

    • NOTES (2)

    • ALLUSIONS (9)

      • Veronica: You're sittin' on it, Potsy.

        Veronica is referring to the 70's comedy Happy Days. One of the main characters went by the nickname Potsy and one of the show's many catchphrases was an insult in which someone was told to "Sit on it."

      • Veronica: I guess we can rule out kidnapping...unless he was abducted by the Insane Clown Posse.

        The Insane Clown Posse is an American horrorcore/hip hop/rapcore duo consisting of Violent J (Joseph Bruce) and Shaggy 2 Dope (Joseph Utsler). They almost always professionally display themselves in full black and white "evil clown" makeup.

      • Meryl: Sully told me that in his physics class, they're working with lasers. So, what if Sully accidentally discovered some new technology, you know, like some kind of laser cannon that could assassinate people from space or something. He could be running from, I don't know, sinister forces!
        Meryl is alluding to the 1985 movie Real Genius. The story revolves around the C.I.A. contracting Pacific Tech Prof. Jerry Hathaway, to construct a chemical laser weapon capable of eliminating individual human targets from space. Hathaway creates a research team at the university that are, unknown to them, working on this device. The team discovers that their efforts are going to create a weapon and set out to thwart the government's attempts to utilize it as such.

      • Veronica: (pointing) Egg sandwich? Egg sandwich? Orange whip?

        "Orange whip" is an allusion to the movie The Blues Brothers (1980) where John Candy's character, Burton Mercer, points as he orders orange whips for his fellow police officers at the blues concert.

      • Veronica: Of all the gin joints, in all the towns, in all the world, she had to walk into mine.
        This is a reference to the 1942 movie Casablanca.

      • Veronica's final voiceover mentions Stan Marsh of the Comedy Central show South Park. Stan usually delivers the moral at the end of each episode, often mentioning "what we've learned today."

      • Veronica: You know what they say in the Big House, 'if you can't find a partner, use a wooden chair.'

        Veronica is quoting the Elvis Presley hit, "Jailhouse Rock."

      • Piz: Remember my guitar? Here's where it gently weeps.

        This is a reference to The Beatles song "Where My Guitar Gently Weeps," written by George Harrison.

      • Episode Title: Of Vice and Men

        This refers to Of Mice and Men, a novel by John Steinbeck, first published in 1937 which is in turn refers to the poem "To a Mouse" by Robert Burns: "The best-laid schemes o mice an men, Often go awry."

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