Veronica Mars

Season 3 Episode 7

Of Vice and Men

Aired Tuesday 9:00 PM Nov 14, 2006 on UPN
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    The Veronica Mars Season 3 Dossier: Episodes 5-8

    In the next four episodes of Season 3, Veronica continues adjusting to college life... and the main plot takes a turn for the downright troubling.

  • Episode Summary

    Veronica helps a girl named Meryl who is certain that her boyfriend is in trouble, while a jaded Veronica tries to convince her that he is cheating.

    Meanwhile, Logan reluctantly tells Veronica why he is sure Mercer didn't commit the rapes, and Keith finds that there is a heavy price to pay for committing adultery.moreless

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    • Veronica helps a girl. Logan reluctantly tells Veronica why he is sure Mercer didn't commit the rapes, and Keith finds that there is a heavy price to pay for committing adultery.moreless

      Veronica helps a girl named Meryl who is certain that her boyfriend is in trouble, while a jaded Veronica tries to convince her that he is cheating.

      Meanwhile, Logan reluctantly tells Veronica why he is sure Mercer didn't commit the rapes, and Keith finds that there is a heavy price to pay for committing adultery.
    • A crucial, amazing episode for the ages.

      Oh my God! I am completely blown away by this episode! Logan and Veronica, as wonderful as they are together, are falling apart. Veronica Finds sanctuary at Wallace's dorm when she feels the men in her life (Keith and Logan) have been letting her down. I am a huge fan of LoVe!<33 And it made me so incredibly teary-eyed when Logan saved Veronica for what is i believe the 4th time throughout the series. Classic! That whole scene got to me. I loved this episode. It was absolutely perfect.moreless
    • keith and logan face the anger of veronica, while she tries to find a girls missing boyfriend...

      i liked this ep alot. the side plot (missing boyfriend) was good, and a good tie-in with the themes of trust and cheating. and i liked the end; i seriously thought the boyfriend was off somewhere with another girl. im glad the writers threw in a happy ending to that little mystery, what with the general feeling of doom and gloom this season.

      keith and harmony- hmmm. i kinda liked them, but im glad keith put veronica first. poor harmony though, she completely destroyed her life and cant get it back. i guess we wont be hearing from her again...

      piz: i love him and his little crush on veronica and his egg sandwhichy cuteness and all, but if he gets in the way of LoVe, then ill be mad.

      which brings me to logan and veronica, to which i can only say, yay! thank god for logan the hero :) i was so glad he came to her rescue. and he stuck by veronica and tried to make things better when they were fighting, so hes come a long way in terms of character, i would say. hopefully thats the end of their rough patch, for now anyway.

      another great episode and i cant wait til next week!moreless
    • Veronica helps a girl find her boyfriend and finds an alibi for Mercer, accused of being the campus rapist. She is disappointed with both her father and her boyfriend so she tries and avoids them but when the rapist attacks her they come at her rescue.moreless

      I think the most appropriate summary for this episode is "dulcis in fundo" (the interesting part is at the end) though we wouldn't be able to relish it without the rest of the episode. Veronica is shown as the moral authority to the people around her – she refuses Professor Landry’s FBI internship offer because she thinks he’s trying to buy her silence on his affair with the Dean’s young wife. She has a tiff with her father Keith over his affair with a married lady she doesn’t approve of. Keith ends his relationship with Harmony having understood that his affair was headed nowhere and that he has disappointed his daughter who had always looked up at him as “the one bright example in life” she had. As to her boyfriend Logan, well… she more than us knows Logan isn’t the classic good boy but she probably didn’t expect that after all they’ve been through together he would hide from her where he’d been with his buddy Mercer the previous summer. Veronica thinks he’s probably cheated on her but being an analytical mind she sets out to find evidence. When her attempts fail she blackmails Logan with the alibi she had discovered to prove Mercer’s innocence. When she learns Logan ran away like a coward from the mess he had made at a hotel in Mexico, she puts up a face Logan was clearly afraid of and because of which he kept it a secret. Veronica sits all alone at a refectory table perhaps thinking that this may avoid her being let down by someone else she trusts and respects. And then the rapist attacks her – drugged drink, head spinning, fuzzy sight and Veronica is alone in the big car parking area. We catch a glimpse of her assailant getting closer to her. Somehow she manages to activate her car’s alarm before falling on the ground and fainting. Just then Logan, who’s searching for Veronica everywhere (even her father tries calling her, unsuccessfully), sights her car in alarm and runs to the parking area. He finds Veronica unconscious on the floor. Evidently upset he gently picks her up and finds few of her hair cut by the rapist. She is then back at home, nursed by her father and under Logan’s concerned eyes. She would have been the 4th victim of the violence at the campus, had Logan not been there.

      So even our brave heroine has learnt, in her turn, a moral lesson – “faith, you give it to the people you love… but the people who really deserve it are the ones who come through even when you don't love them enough”.moreless
    • This was a very powerful episode...loved it!

      This episode was definitely one for the books!

      It was great...more than great, it was breathtaking!!!

      This episode took the show to a whole new emotional level.

      I have new found respect for the writters...they have continued to produce excellent stuff....that every one can enjoy.

      The script for Veronica, her dad and Logan...were not only well written but were well executed!!!

      Great job!!!
    Amanda Walsh

    Amanda Walsh


    Guest Star

    Andrew McClain

    Andrew McClain

    Moe Slater

    Guest Star

    Charlie Weber

    Charlie Weber


    Guest Star

    Ken Marino

    Ken Marino

    Vincent "Vinnie" Van Lowe

    Recurring Role

    Ryan Devlin

    Ryan Devlin

    Mercer Hayes

    Recurring Role

    Patrick Fabian

    Patrick Fabian

    Professor Hank Landry

    Recurring Role

    Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions


    • TRIVIA (4)

      • Just after Meryl leaves Veronica's car outside the River Stix a police car can be seen in the background. If Veronica wanted a police officer she only needed to turn her head.

      • In this episode, Keith breaks up with Harmony Chase because Veronica doesn't approve of the relationship. It's the second time he ends a relationship in order to please his daughter. The first time was in Season 1 Episode 5 ("You Think You Know Somebody") when he broke up with Rebecca James, Neptune High School's guidance counselor.

      • This is the second time Veronica has been drugged by GHB. The first time was at Shelly Pomeroy's party.

      • When Veronica is found by Logan by her car drugged and part of her head shaved with some blood spots on her skull, you can tell that the perpetrator did not use a clipper guard. For the other girls that were drugged, raped and shaved, their heads are not shaved closely that you see spots of blood on their skulls, but left about quarter inch of hair - meaning the perpetrator used a clipper guard.

    • QUOTES (16)

      • Veronica: I ran Sully's cards again. There were a bunch of charges from last night, all in this neighborhood.
        Meryl: Charges from where?(Veronica sighs)
        Veronica: Circus of Liquors, Crazy Girls, World of Cigarettes.
        (Meryl takes a moment to digest this diary of debauchery)
        Meryl: At least he's okay, right?
        Veronica: I guess we can rule out kidnapping... unless he was abducted by the Insane Clown Posse.

      • Logan: I am your boyfriend, Veronica, and you're treating me like a criminal.
        Veronica: You could have told all this to Lamb.
        Logan: By the time we got out of the room, the fire was spreading. The whole motel was going up in flames. Okay, w-- And, I don't know, we had to get out of there.
        Veronica: You didn't stick around to try to help? You didn't see if everyone was okay?
        Logan: You know, it's because of the look on your face right now that I didn't want to tell you.

      • Veronica: Hey, what are you still doing here? Didn't Logan—
        Mercer: Yeah. He came by and talked to the sheriff last night. Thanks, by the way.
        Veronica: Why are you still here?
        Mercer: Oh, there's something about my attitude the sheriff has found lacking. He's decided to keep me here as long as he's allowed under law. Uh, Logan's picking me up for breakfast tomorrow, if you want to come with.
        Veronica: Doubtful.

      • Logan: Something tells me this isn't a booty call.
        Veronica: I got what you need to get Mercer out of jail. It's yours, Logan. No one has to know where you were that night... no one except me.
        Logan: Can you leave it alone? Can you trust me?
        Veronica: No, I can't. I'm not built that way.
        Logan: Who gets blackmailed by his girlfriend? Oh, I guess I do.

      • Veronica: How bad does your alibi have to be if Mercer would rather stay in jail than divulge it? Huh? Maybe I don't want to know what you were up to.
        Logan: When have you ever not wanted to know anything?

      • Veronica: You tell me your friend couldn't have raped a girl because he was with you this summer. Then you won't tell me what you were doing or why you can't come forward to provide an alibi, so how exactly do you propose to make things right? Are you gonna hypnotize me?
        Logan: I don't know. I was hoping your desire to find the real rapist might outweigh your need to drag me over the coals.
        Veronica: Who says I can't do both?

      • Veronica: What are you doing here?
        Piz: Oh, that, yeah. Uh, I live here. This is my room. That's my bed. You remember my guitar. That's where it gently weeps.
        Veronica: You're supposed to be cramming in a motel, like in The Paper Chase?
        Piz: You mean The Shining? All work and no play makes Wallace psychotic.

      • Veronica: We'll get help. We'll call the sheriff.
        Meryl: You mean the moron?
        Veronica: He's a well-armed moron.

      • Meryl: Look, I was just thinking. Sully told me that in his physics class, they're working with lasers. So, what if Sully accidentally discovered some new technology, you know, like some kind of laser cannon that could assassinate people from space or something? He could be running from, I don't know, sinister forces!
        Veronica: Have you ever heard of Occam's razor, Meryl?
        Meryl: Is that a space laser? Has it already been invented?

      • Meryl: Can I see him?
        Lamb: You got ten bucks? (Meryl looks around to Veronica who shakes her head.) Kidding! I'll have someone let you back there in a minute.

      • Veronica: Hey, you didn't really send that picture message to my dad, did you?
        Vinnie: Well if I did it was a miracle. The phone didn't have a camera on it.

      • Piz: There's a girl in my bed.
        Veronica: Yeah buddy! (Piz looks at Veronica expecting an explanation.) It took a double shot of night time cold medicine to get her down, it also stopped her sniffling. She's pretty worked up about her boyfriend.
        Piz: Understandable, but, um, where am I sleeping?
        Veronica: Well if you play your cards right...the floor.

      • Veronica: I dig the outfit, is that from Dolce and Gabbana's study buddy collection?

      • Veronica: Look, Dad. Do what you gotta do, OK? I've seen too much working here to ever be surprised again.
        Keith: I know you Veronica, you're not that jaded.
        Veronica: I didn't use to be. I had this one shining example, that gave me some faith.

      • Veronica: (voiceover) So what would Stan Marsh say in a situation like this? I think we all learned a valuable lesson about faith. You give it to the people you love. But the people who really deserve it, are the ones who come through even when you don't love them enough.

      • Veronica: (voiceover) Consider my mind blown... and then put back together and blown again.

    • NOTES (2)

    • ALLUSIONS (9)

      • Veronica: You're sittin' on it, Potsy.

        Veronica is referring to the 70's comedy Happy Days. One of the main characters went by the nickname Potsy and one of the show's many catchphrases was an insult in which someone was told to "Sit on it."

      • Veronica: I guess we can rule out kidnapping...unless he was abducted by the Insane Clown Posse.

        The Insane Clown Posse is an American horrorcore/hip hop/rapcore duo consisting of Violent J (Joseph Bruce) and Shaggy 2 Dope (Joseph Utsler). They almost always professionally display themselves in full black and white "evil clown" makeup.

      • Meryl: Sully told me that in his physics class, they're working with lasers. So, what if Sully accidentally discovered some new technology, you know, like some kind of laser cannon that could assassinate people from space or something. He could be running from, I don't know, sinister forces!
        Meryl is alluding to the 1985 movie Real Genius. The story revolves around the C.I.A. contracting Pacific Tech Prof. Jerry Hathaway, to construct a chemical laser weapon capable of eliminating individual human targets from space. Hathaway creates a research team at the university that are, unknown to them, working on this device. The team discovers that their efforts are going to create a weapon and set out to thwart the government's attempts to utilize it as such.

      • Veronica: (pointing) Egg sandwich? Egg sandwich? Orange whip?

        "Orange whip" is an allusion to the movie The Blues Brothers (1980) where John Candy's character, Burton Mercer, points as he orders orange whips for his fellow police officers at the blues concert.

      • Veronica: Of all the gin joints, in all the towns, in all the world, she had to walk into mine.
        This is a reference to the 1942 movie Casablanca.

      • Veronica's final voiceover mentions Stan Marsh of the Comedy Central show South Park. Stan usually delivers the moral at the end of each episode, often mentioning "what we've learned today."

      • Veronica: You know what they say in the Big House, 'if you can't find a partner, use a wooden chair.'

        Veronica is quoting the Elvis Presley hit, "Jailhouse Rock."

      • Piz: Remember my guitar? Here's where it gently weeps.

        This is a reference to The Beatles song "Where My Guitar Gently Weeps," written by George Harrison.

      • Episode Title: Of Vice and Men

        This refers to Of Mice and Men, a novel by John Steinbeck, first published in 1937 which is in turn refers to the poem "To a Mouse" by Robert Burns: "The best-laid schemes o mice an men, Often go awry."