Veronica Mars

Season 3 Episode 11

Poughkeepsie, Tramps & Thieves

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Aired Tuesday 9:00 PM Jan 30, 2007 on UPN
9.2
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Veronica is hired to track down a one-night-stand, but the situation becomes more complicated when she turns out to be a hooker. Meanwhile, Keith continues his investigation in Dean O'Dell's death, and a visit by Madison Sinclair causes trouble for Veronica and Logan.

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  • Veronica is hired to track down a 1-night-stand, but the situation becomes more complicated when she turns out to be a hooker. Keith continues his investigation in Dean O'Dell's death, and a visit by Madison Sinclair causes trouble for Veronica and Logan.moreless

    7.5
    Veronica is hired to track down a one-night-stand, but the situation becomes more complicated when she turns out to be a hooker.



    Meanwhile, Keith continues his investigation in Dean O'Dell's death, and a visit by Madison Sinclair causes trouble for Veronica and Logan.

    that madison sinclair.. ughhhh.. why does she exist?
  • Veronica helps a friend track down a one-night stand while Keith works to solve the Dean's murder. Veronica and Logan get closer...well, at least until Madison revels some shocking news.

    9.7
    This episode was pretty good. The one liners were great and the writing seemed better than it was earlier in the season. I loved when Veronica told Keith how to dance like a stripper when he was suiting up in his old sheriff's uniform. More tips into the Dean's murder are revealed, but still no words on whom the killer really is. Veronica tracking down the one-night stand was interesting, especially since she turned out to be a hooker who really fell for her client. Veronica then asking Logan whether or not he had been with a hooker was amusing. The writers really made it seem like they were growing closer together, but after Madison’s revelation, seems like they are back on the train to splitsville. I still can’t believe Logan did that to Veronica. He claims he loves her, but to do that, he really couldn’t have. I hope that if they do break up, it’s for good because all this on and off is getting to be a wee bit old. Still, all and all, it was a good episode and shows why this is one of the best shows on TV.moreless
  • LoVe in trouble once again

    9.0
    The episode was really good and I liked the mini-mysterie that Veronica had to solve. It was also quite well connected to the storyline of Logan and Veronica, I think. It was all about real love and what you're willing to sacrifice when there's a person you feel you have a connection with. And I liked Max in this episode. He was the guy who rode her out to the professor when he thought she'd cheated, right? And she got him fired for that :-D Even better that they're having this great storyline together!

    I always hated Madison Sinclair, but I never would have thought she could be a problem again. I heard the rumours and spoilers, but didn't wanna believe it. Now it's out in the open: Logan "fooled around" with her while he and Veronica were broken up. How could he be so stupid? I get that Veronica is totally disgusted and confused now! I couldn't sleep with him after that either... I'm so afraid of what's to come, I want them to stay together!!!moreless
  • Veronica helps track down this guy's "love" but she turns out to be a hooker- interesting times.

    9.7
    Ahh Southern California: sandy beaches, blue skies, practically paradise except for the hookers and all the scamming that goes on.



    I liked this episode. It constantly made awesome references to possibly the best place ever (and i mean ever): The world known Comic Con. Veronica made fun of it but in reality Veronica Mars had it's own panel (that was packed to the gut) at last summer's "Con". I love the accuracy of the dialogue, there really was a BAttlestar Galactica panel (also stuffed-- sorry to the 1500 people i accidently cut in front of- i swear i was only trying to get a good seat for the Bones panel that was next).



    So anyway, this episode showed that Veronica and Logan were infact back together- but no not for long. Someting always comes by and knocks them off their comfy seat. Usually Logan's indiscretions- sleeping with Madison in this case. AS Veronica put her "she is the embodiment of everything i loathe" well i second and third that. The weekly case was pretty interesting, apparently you can fall in love with a hooker and have a connection. Another case that love does exist, but people always return to their old ways.



    Good episode, great references. Always entertaining.moreless
  • From the description of this episode i thought it would be ok but nothing spectacular. But it actually turned out to be a really interesting episode with some twists and turns.moreless

    9.0
    The answer key guy Max comes to Veronica with the task of finding his dream girl. I would say one night stand but turns out they have a connection and really hit it off and they never had sex. He wants Veronica to find her before she gets married. But turns out it's just his sleazeball friends screwing around thinking they finally got him laid and to lose his virginity. Also some funny stuff in this episode between Keith and Sheriff Lamb. As Keith goes undercover as an officer to get information from the Lillith House Girls and discovers the one girl egged his car. A nice random appearance by Madison definitely didn't expect to see her again. I really gotta say i hate this on again off again Logan Veronica storyline. He admits to the random surfer girl but then doesn't tell her about nailing Madison in Colorado. I just dont care for this back and forward thing going on with them. Lots of nice twists and turns with Max's situation. With her really falling for him their nice cute but brief reunion. Then she get sucked back into it. So then Veronica and Max blackmail her top client in an attempt to get Max's money back which leads to them helping get Wendy out of the biz. I gotta say the writers and the actors really made me get invested in these characters and really hoped they got together. So it was kind of a bittersweet ending when they broke up. Although it was understandable since it seemed it jus wasn't going to work. All in all a good enjoyable episode. I also liked slowly but surely the Death Of Dean O'Dell mystery was moved along.moreless
Cher Ferreyra

Cher Ferreyra

Fern Delgado

Guest Star

Brianne Davis

Brianne Davis

Wendy

Guest Star

Christopher Carley

Christopher Carley

Phone Guy

Guest Star

Brandon Hillock

Brandon Hillock

Deputy Jerry Sacks

Recurring Role

Krista Kalmus

Krista Kalmus

Claire Nordhouse

Recurring Role

Amanda Noret

Amanda Noret

Madison Sinclair

Recurring Role

Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions

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  • TRIVIA (1)

  • QUOTES (19)

    • Veronica: I can't believe I had to blackmail a judge just to get some alone time with you.
      Logan: You really don't have to work that hard.
      Veronica: Sure, I do.

    • Veronica: Were you with anyone while we were broken up?
      Logan: Land mine. (he pauses) I fooled around with this horrible girl who meant less than nothing to me, and I couldn't regret it more. Thinking of it makes me ill. So, there. Presto. Intimacy. (long silence) Still love me?
      Veronica: Yes.

    • Max: Can you still find her?
      Veronica: Um... yes. But she'll still be a prostitute.
      Max: I'm not stupid, Veronica. Okay, we had something. I know it. There's some things you can't fake.
      Veronica: There are some things women are universally known for faking, and this girl is a professional.
      Max: When I dropped her off at the airport, she had tears in her eyes.
      Veronica: Are you sure she wasn't thinking of the cab fare back?

    • Max: News? Already?
      Veronica: The glass-is-half-full version: Chelsea's not getting married.
      Max: Are you serious?
      Veronica: Yeah. The half-empty version is... she's a hooker.

    • Max: Have a seat.
      Veronica: No, thanks. It's easier to be nosy if I can mill about.

    • Veronica: Morning. Whatcha doing?
      Keith: (in his sheriff's uniform) Just getting dressed for work.
      Veronica: Wait. You're missing something. (comes back carrying a boombox) Now, remember, when you rip off the breakaway pants, thrust your pelvis toward the bachelorette, okay? (does thrusting motion) It's her special day.

    • Veronica: Buried secrets tend to surface when I'm around.
      Logan: Maybe that's because of all the digging.

    • Veronica: You know if I were a hooker, this snuggle would cost you.

    • Logan: This is a bad idea.
      Veronica: It's blackmail! It's the go-to idea. In case of emergency, break glass or blackmail.

    • Logan: What? You think that hookers are known for their punctuality?

    • Veronica: I'm meeting two hookers over at Logan's later.
      Keith: On a school night?
      Veronica: Off-peak hours, save a few bucks.
      Keith: You're not really...
      Veronica: Fiona and Lisette. They are just a couple of gals puttin' themselves through college. Man, quit bringing me down with your bourgeois hang-ups.

    • Veronica: What's GFE?
      Brian: Girlfriend experience.
      Veronica: She has to be an experienced girlfriend?
      Brian: It's the type of experience you want her to have. You want it to be like she's your girlfriend, it's a GFE, girlfriend experience. But if you want to act like you're in a porn, it's a PSE: porn-star experience.
      Veronica: Is there a reality experience, where she reminds the guy she's only there because he's paying her?

    • Veronica: (about the escort search engine) It's like a Zagat Guide for hookers. How did people find sex before there was an internet?

    • Veronica: Are you gonna eat that?
      Logan: (looking at the french fry) This?
      Veronica: Yeah, that fry in particular.
      Logan: That was the plan.
      Veronica: I'm just saying, if you weren't, or if you were just gonna consume it out of obligation or to meet someone else's expectations, I know someone who might be willing to take it off your hands. Maybe add a little ketchup, make it worth a girl's while.

    • Veronica: A hooker search engine. What will you boys come up with next?

    • Max: Here's the deal: the woman I love is getting married next week, I have no idea where or to who, I don't know her address, her phone number, I don't even know her last name. If you don't find her, I'm taking a bath with my blow-dryer.

    • Veronica: You're just like the rest of them, aren't you? You just wanna use me for my skills and pay me for my time and effort.
      Max: Do I have an option of using you for your skills and not paying?

    • Keith: (to Sheriff Lamb) I find solving an investigation very relaxing. You should give it a try some time.

    • Veronica: I just want to get to a place where we can be really intimate.
      Logan: That's what the female praying mantis says before she bites the male's head off.

  • NOTES (2)

  • ALLUSIONS (9)

    • Veronica: You didn't get all sweaty in your Wookiee suit, did you?
      Max: Yuk it up. You know, it's not all Trekkies and Star Wars nerds. I was there because Dave Gibbons has a new graphic novel that he scripted as well as drew.
      Veronica: Sounds cooler now. So, about the one that got away, she was dressed as a Cylon, and you only knew her as Six, right?
      Max: Her name is Chelsea, and she was in regular clothes. And, yeah, after the Dave Gibbons thing, I may have drifted into the Battlestar Galactica session. And, yeah, that's where we met. And, okay, we started out talking about how the Cylon raiders on BSG look like Batman's car when it turns into a plane. But then we started talking about our crappy relationships with our parents and, and Chuck Klosterman and moral grayness.

      A Wookiee is a member of a race similar to the Sasquatch from Star Wars, an epic space saga developed by George Lucas during the 1970's. Trekkie is a term used to describe a fan of the fictional Star Trek universe.

      Dave Gibbons is a British writer and comic artist. Max was most likely referring to Gibbons' black and white graphic novel "The Originals" released in 2005.

      Battlestar Galactica is a science fiction television series about the war between the humans and the Cylons, a cybernetic civilization. Number Six is a fictional Cylon character portrayed by Canadian actress Tricia Helfer in the television series.

      Chuck Klosterman is an American writer and journalist who focuses on pop culture.

    • Veronica: Sir Cheats-a-Lot. How's business?

      This is a reference to the rapper Sir Mix-a-Lot. He is famous for his one hit wonder "Baby Got Back".

    • Throughout the episode several references are made to Comic Con. Comic Con is the world's largest comic convention which attracted around 130,000 people over four days in 2006. The show had a panel there as well as Battlestar Galactica.

    • Veronica: If it isn't the Man of La Mancha.

      Man of La Mancha is a musical based on the novel Don Quixote written by Miguel de Cervantes y Saavedra. In the story, Don Quixote of La Mancha falls in love with Aldonza, whom he calls Dulcinea. Aldonza, used to being roughly handled by men, is treated well by Don Quixote.

    • Veronica: If you go undercover as a student: no Daniel Boone jacket, no peace signs. The times they have a-changed.

      Daniel Boone was an American pioneer and hunter who is one of the first folk heroes of the United States. The peace sign is a hand gesture that was often used in the seventies between hippies. "The times they have a-changed" alludes to a song by Bob Dylan called "The Times They Are A-Changing."

    • Veronica: And how when you see a white plastic bag floating around, you think there is so much beauty in the world you can't take it.

      This is from the 1999 Oscar winning film American Beauty. Ricky Fitts, played by Wes Bentley, films a white bag floating in the wind. Seeing it makes him realize that there is so much beauty in the world and that he can hardly stand it.

    • Veronica: How to make the happy hooker not so happy.

      The Happy Hooker by Xaviera Hollander is a book from the '70s about a woman, Xaviera de Vries, who recounts being a madam in a brothel.

    • Veronica: Your attention to detail has served us well young Jedis.
      The Jedi are a fictional monastic peacekeeping organization from the Star Wars saga, known for their talent in and observance of The Force.

    • Episode Title: Poughkeepsie, Tramps & Thieves

      It is a reference to the song "Gypsies, Tramps & Thieves" sung by Cher. It's also a 2006 movie starring Amanda Seyfried who played Lilly Kane on the show.