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What's My Line?

Season 17 Episode 1

EPISODE #780

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Aired Daily 12:00 AM Sep 05, 1965 on CBS
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EPISODE #780
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Game 1: Miss Vonda Kay Van Dyke (b. 5/19/1943) (as Mystery Guest #1, and the panel was blindfolded; she signed in as "Vonda Kay, Miss America 1965") - The overlay screen showed "The Current Miss America, Vonda Kay Van Dyke" (she is the outgoing Miss America; she was also voted Miss Congeniality; she was Miss Arizona 1964; she appeared in a long gown and her crown; she said she will probably be returning to Arizona State University where she is majoring in speech at their College of Education; the upcoming Miss America Pageant will be held next Saturday on CBS per Mr. Daly)

Game 2: Mr. H. Keith Bannister - "Makes Sleeping Bags" (salaried; he is the manager of Woods Bag & Canvas Co.; they have outfitted important prestigious expeditions such as those for Admiral Byrd and Sir Hubert Wilkins; from Ogdensburg, NY)

Game 3: Allen Ludden (10/5/1917 - 6/9/1981) & Betty White (b. 1/17/1922) (as Mystery Guest Duo)
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SUBMIT REVIEW
    John Daly

    John Daly

    Moderator (1950-1967)

    Arlene Francis

    Arlene Francis

    Regular Panelist (1950-1967)

    Bennett Cerf

    Bennett Cerf

    Regular Panelist (1951-1967)

    Dorothy Kilgallen

    Dorothy Kilgallen

    Regular Panelist (1950-1965)

    Vonda Kay Van Dyke

    Vonda Kay Van Dyke

    Mystery Guest #1

    Guest Star

    Allen Ludden

    Allen Ludden

    Mystery Guest Duo

    Guest Star

    Betty White

    Betty White

    Mystery Guest Duo

    Guest Star

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    • QUOTES (2)

      • Bennett: You look beautiful as Miss America, John. Good night.
        John: I knew the summer was gettin' to him, but I didn't know the summer was gettin' to him that bad, that's what I didn't know. Good night, Bennett, and thanks to all of you for being with us on What's My Line?

      • John: (regarding the broadcast of the Miss America Pageant) Well, actually, it'll be on Saturday, next... I mean... It'll be on Saturday, next CBS (laughter from panel and audience) Oh, the summer heat gets to everybody! It'll be on CBS next Saturday and you can find out who the next Miss America is going to be.

    • NOTES (9)

      • FLIP REPORT: John flipped all the cards for the only regular contestant of the night at six down because time was running short. - agent_0042 (2007)

      • (1) END OF THE FIRST "SEAL OF GOOD PRACTICE" ERA: This was the last "WML?" episode to display the "Seal of Good Practice" emblem on the "A CBS Television Network Production"/"Balloon Man" slide card graphic, as first seen on the program on EPISODE #630 of September 9, 1962. Though this symbol was first seen on TV programs in 1962, the design itself dates back to 1959 when the fifth edition of the National Association of Broadcasters' Television Code was published. (After being first enacted in 1952, revisions up to that point were made in 1954, 1956 and 1958.) The 1959 document, with the seal on the cover, can be found at the following link below:

        http://www.tv-signoffs.com/1959_NAB_Television_Code.pdf
        (Broadband only: 4.2 Megabyte file size)

        In addition, another early "Seal of Good Practice" design was seen on some TV programs such as "My Favorite Martian." This design likely dates back to 1958, one year after the NAB adopted its current name (from 1951 to 1957, it had been known as the National Association of Radio and Television Broadcasters, NARTB). A recreation of this earlier design can be found on the link below:

        http://www.tv-signoffs.com/pictures/NABseal1958.jpg

        Beginning with next week's show, which was the first live edition of the 1965-1966 season, a modified design of the Television Code logo will take effect on that same slide card. More details can be found in the notes to the next episode.
        (2) ANOTHER END OF AN ERA: This was also the last episode to bear the credit, "Associate Producers: Bob Bach, Ann Kaminsky." The latter was first credited as Ann Krieger on EPISODE #774 of July 25, 1965 which was the last "live" show of the 1964-1965 season, but as all the pre-taped shows that aired in the weeks that followed were produced before that date, she was credited by her earlier name. Beginning with next week's show, she will be credited under her new name for the remainder of its run. The rest of the production crew is the same as that credited on EPISODE #762 of May 2, 1965 which aired after the taping of this episode.
        (3) "WML?" SPONSOR WATCH: Tonight's opening sponsor is Block Drug, featuring their Co-Re-Ga denture adhesive. This ends a string of pre-taped episodes that led off with Kellogg's Special K cereal. Kellogg's, however, was among the advertisers whose wares were seen in the mid-program commercial breaks on tonight's original episode. Tonight's third and final original sponsor was Kaiser. This edition may well have been one of the last on which Kellogg's was a sponsor, albeit in this case, not an opening one. The cereal maker had been a "WML?" sponsor, either on a sustaining, alternating, rotating or participating basis, since EPISODE #409 of April 6, 1958.
        (4) Once more, Johnny Olson's "And now, from New York..." opening line is said in real time, and not through cutting the word "live" as was being done to kinescopes of live "WML?" shows of this era, including those of the next few weeks.
        (5) In the context of when this was taped - prior to the airing of the live EPISODE #762 of May 2, 1965 - it is likely that Robert Q. Lewis' return from Hollywood was in connection with the filming of the movie "Ski Party" in which he appeared. His appearance in that flick was mentioned in the introductions at the start of EPISODE #763 of May 9, 1965 which aired live, one week after the taping of this episode. Interestingly, the panel lineup of this show was exactly the same as EPISODE #763, except with the ladies' seating positions reversed. Both episodes proved to be the last time "Q-sie" appeared on the panel in Dorothy Kilgallen's lifetime.
        (6) Following GSN's May 14, 2007 airing of tonight's episode, the channel aired a black-and-white kinescope of the "classic CBS" version of "To Tell the Truth" which originally aired on May 14, 1957 - exactly 50 years to the day from this airing. The sponsor was Geritol, the host was Bud Collyer (who at the program's opening used the "Feel Stronger" motto associated with the product during their 1962-1965 co-sponsorship of "WML?"), and the panel on this occasion consisted of Mary Healy, Jackie Cooper, Kitty Carlisle and Hy Gardner. The first contestants were Canadian long-distance swimmer Marilyn Bell (the youngest to swim the English Channel) and two impostors; the second contestants were chef Jean Maracé and two impostors; and the third contestants were former Nebraska senator Hazel Abel and two impostors. - W-B (2007)

      • Allen Ludden and Betty White promoted their summer stock production of "Bell, Book and Candle." It was not mentioned on this episode, but their play was being performed at the Paper Mill Playhouse in Millburn, NJ. Allen and Betty were married from 1963 until his death in 1981. - Suzanne (2004)

      • The panel surely got confused in trying to guess the occupation of the sleeping bag salesman. Dorothy looked very good on this episode and presented herself well. However, it was indeed stunning to hear her mention a "suicide pill"! Robert Q. Lewis looked even more tan than recent guest George Hamilton. It was brought up that RQL had been in California for a while! - ironcreekguy

      • During the end credits, Johnny Olson announced that this episode was prerecorded. From Gil Fates' logs, we know this episode was taped on May 2, 1965. - Suzanne (2004)

      • Dorothy Watch: While Dorothy was questioning the second contestant, she determined that she could use the product, that it could improve her, and that she would be better off having used it. While clarifying the points with John, she makes the statement, "Uh, it isn't like a suicide pill or anything like that, okay." Was this a cry for help? Or was Dorothy's November 8, 1965 death an accidental overdose? The answer will forever be unknown.

      • Tidbits: Bennett introduces John as the "Tilton Trained Tormentor of Terrified Panelists on Television." John Daly makes a mistake in the second game by saying, "Four down and nothing to go". He quickly catches his mistake and corrects himself, though!

      • Panel: Dorothy Kilgallen, Robert Q. Lewis, Arlene Francis, Bennett Cerf.

      • This was a wild show. The panel was able to guess the first guest without a hitch, but when the next contestant came on, confusion reigned. Bennett made a crucial mistake by only asking if the product could be worn above the waist, which received a "yes" answer. If he had followed this line of questioning, and also asked if the item could have been worn below the waist as well, the panel would not have been so confused. Allen Ludden and Betty White made a cute couple not only this night, but all the years they were married, which was from 1963 until Ludden's death in 1981. Ludden was the host of "The General Electric College Bowl" from 1959-1962, but he is best known for being the charming host of the hit Goodson-Todman game show "Password." In fact, other than Goodson-Todman's "The Price Is Right" game show host Bob Barker, no quiz show host has been associated with one show for as long as Allen Ludden had. Ludden hosted the various versions of "Password" on all three major networks: CBS, ABC and NBC. Betty White would later go on to star in two classic sitcoms. She played "Sue Ann Nivens" on the "Mary Tyler Moore Show," where she was the man-hungry rival to "Mary Richards." White's most famous role was that of dimwitted "Rose Nylund" on "The Golden Girls." Also, Dorothy's remark about the suicide pill sounded more like an innocent slip, but it did sound very eerie considering that two months later she would be gone. - Sargebri (2004)

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