Arlene: (deciding whether to guess sauna or shower) "The Sauna I get it the better!"
Arlene says this audibly on air, after glancing to her left toward Bennett.
John Daly credits the play-on-words pun to Bennett.
BENNETT'S UNHEARD QUESTION: At the end of Bobby's game, the contestant who retrieved lost golf balls, it looked as if like Bennett was getting ready to ask him a question. However, Bennett was cut off when John Daly thanked the guest for being on the show. Next, while Bennett was shaking Bobby's hand, Bennett appeared to be asking Bobby a question. One can only wonder if Bennett was trying to obtain Bobby's services for his golf club or even possibly his personal 2-hole golf course at his Mount Kisco home. - cattaur (2008)
REVIEW: The panel had an excellent performance this evening as they essentially scored a perfecto. In the first game, guest panelist Joel Grey correctly guessed that the lady from England was a giraffe keeper. In the second game, Arlene was given credit for guessing that the young man from New Jersey built saunas. In the mystery guest round, Joel correctly identified Peggy Cass from "To Tell the Truth." Peg was on the show to promote the play "Don't Drink the Water." Of course, she also talked about TTTT. In the finale, Arlene was given credit for guessing that the young man from Georgia had something to do with golf balls. In fact, she could be heard off-camera guessing that the contestant found lost golf balls, but John had already flipped the cards. This definitely was a great night for the panel. - Sargebri (2008)
TTTT TALK: When Phyllis was questioning Peggy during the mystery guest round, she asked if there was more than one person with John, to which she received a "no" answer. Perhaps Phyllis had a flashback to several months earlier. On EPISODE #840 of December 11, 1966, Peggy and the rest of the TTTT panel (Orson Bean, Tom Poston and Kitty Carlisle) were mystery guests in the very first game. Ironically, it was Phyllis, a former member of the daytime TTTT panel, who correctly identified them. Doubly ironic was that tonight, Arlene actually thought that Peg was Joan Fontaine. The irony stems from the fact that for a few years, Joan was also a member of the daytime TTTT panel, along with Phyllis. - Sargebri (2008)
CANCELLATION WATCH - 871 DOWN, FIVE TO GO!!! There was no mention of WML's impending cancellation. However, because Peggy was a member of the panel on WML's sister show, "To Tell the Truth," her appearance tonight was probably in the same vein as the episode of two weeks earlier, when the hosts of the remaining Goodson-Todman shows on CBS network television appeared. - Sargebri (2008)
JOEL GREY!!! It's too bad that Joel's first appearance on WML is lost to history, because if tonight's performance was any indication, he probably would have made a great guest panelist had the show not been cancelled. However, Joel's Broadway commitments, as well as his film and television commitments, probably would have kept him from appearing on the panel on a regular basis. Of course, he had just won the Tony for Best Featured Actor in a Musical for his role as the "Master of Ceremonies" in the classic musical "Cabaret." Joel would later reprise his role in the film version and would make history by winning the Best Supporting Actor Oscar for the same role. - Sargebri (2008)
FLIP REPORT: For the first contestant, John flipped a couple of cards over at three down when she gave away a bit more information than was necessary on an answer. He then went ahead and flipped them all over at eight down when Joel came up with "giraffe sitter." John flipped them all for the second contestant at four down. Bennett and Arlene had both come up with "sauna" at the same time, and John said he flipped the cards as compensation for the contestant's having to endure one of Bennett's puns. John flipped them all for the final contestant at three down because time was running short. Arlene had identified the product, golf balls. - agent_0042 (2008)
(1) "WML?" SPONSOR WATCH: Tonight's opening sponsor is Bayer aspirin.
(2) "MEMOREX" WATCH: For tonight's show, announcer Johnny Olson's intro leads off with "And now, from New York..." and this is the fourth surviving pre-taped episode of the 1966-1967 season to do so.
(3) "WML?" PANEL WATCH: Tonight, we see the exact same panel lineup as was assembled for EPISODE #866 of June 18, 1967. Sadly, EPISODE #866 is lost to history, except for the audio portion of Betty Grable's mystery guest appearance which exists on a 1971 LP and a 1972 LP. More about those record albums on the notes to EPISODE #866. This evening's edition was pre-taped on July 9, 1967, three weeks after that lost episode.
(4) JOEL GREY: Besides his work on stage and movies, Joel Grey had a modest recording career. He recorded a handful of albums and singles for Columbia Records between 1967 and 1969, alternating between the Broadway standards, which were his specialty, and more "contemporary" works from the likes of Tim Hardin, Lennon & McCartney, and 1960's hippie folk-rock singer Donovan. One of Mr. Grey's LP's for the label, "Black Sheep Boy" (CS 9794, 1969), was rated among the worst rock-and-roll albums of all time in the 1991 book "The Worst Records of All Time" by Jimmy Guterman and Owen O'Donnell. This book also included among that particular list former "WML?" guest panelist and mystery guest Joey Bishop's 1968 album "Joey Bishop Sings Country Western" (ABC ABCS-656). In addition, two-time "WML?" guest panelist William Shatner made the list, for his "rendition" of Bob Dylan's "Mr. Tambourine Man" (from the LP "The Transformed Man," Decca DL 75043, 1968), in a section dealing with the worst covers of Dylan compositions.
(5) MYSTERY GUEST: Besides appearing in the Broadway play "Don't Drink the Water," Peggy Cass was, of course, one of the major panelists on the lone surviving edition of the "classic CBS" "To Tell the Truth," the daytime version, which will face cancellation a year from tonight's show. From 1969 to 1978, Miss Cass and her fellow CBS "TTTT" panelist, Kitty Carlisle, will be an integral part of the syndicated version of "TTTT." While the 1968-1975 syndicated "WML?" had elements of the old "I've Got a Secret" mixed-in, the new "TTTT" not only combined the old version and "IGAS" format-wise (with the latter's penchant for wacky demonstrations), but also in terms of on-air talent, due to the presence of former "IGAS" moderator Garry Moore (who hosted up until his retirement in 1977) and panelist Bill Cullen (who remained a regular on the syndicated "TTTT" panel for its entire duration). In the early months of the syndicated run, Miss Cass and Miss Carlisle's "TTTT" panel-mate Orson Bean was also a regular, but after that time period, the second male panelist's slot was rotated among several men, including fellow "TTTT" alumnus Tom Poston, Nipsey Russell, "Match Game" host Gene Rayburn, 1972-1975 syndicated "WML?" host Larry Blyden, and former "WML?" guest panelist Joe Garagiola, the latter of whom succeeded Mr. Moore as the syndicated "TTTT's" host in its final (1977-1978) season.
(6) "WML?" CREW CREDITS AND CREDITS CRUNCH WATCH: Because this episode was taped prior to the live airing of EPISODE #868 of July 9, 1967, the same production crew -- including associate director Peter Levin and technical director Vern Gamble -- as on the other show, is also credited tonight. And, much to the delight of its appreciative fans, GSN ran the end credits uncrunched and in full screen mode on its most recent airing on February 20, 2008.
(7) SPEAKING OF GARRY MOORE AND BILL CULLEN: Following GSN's February 20, 2008 airing of tonight's show, the cable and satellite channel ran an edition of "I've Got a Secret," first transmitted "live from New York" on April 22, 1963, with host Garry Moore, panelists Bill Cullen, Betsy Palmer, Henry Morgan and Bess Myerson, and celebrity guest Alan King. - W-B (2008)
CANCELLATION WATCH - Nothing discernable. This episode was pretaped before Mark Goodson made the official on-air announcement on July 16, 1967. - Suzanne (2004)
During the end credits, Johnny Olson announced that this episode was prerecorded. From Gil Fates' logs, we know this episode was taped on July 9, 1967. - Suzanne (2004)
Peggy Cass promoted her Broadway play, "Don't Drink the Water," which is being performed at the Morosco Theatre. When John named the play title, he pantomimed. He said, "Don't" and then he picked up his glass of water and took a sip. He also mentioned that Peggy is a daytime panelist on "To Tell The Truth," which is broadcast 5 days per week. - Suzanne (2004)
Tidbits: Joel Grey made two appearances on WML. However, his first appearance on EPISODE #866 of June 18, 1967 is lost to history, so this is his only remaining appearance. Phyllis Newman again appears with short hair, as she did on EPISODE #868. This episode was pretaped on the same day that the other episode aired live. In a later show, EPISODE #875, her hair is again longer in length, and that episode was taped after this one was. Thus, she is again wearing a short-hair wig tonight. - Suzanne (2004)
REVIEW: The panel did really well on this particular episode. Guest panelist Joel Grey got laughs when he described Phyllis Newman as the "Clara Bow of the Pepsi Generation." He was making his second and final appearance on the show, and got the ball rolling when he correctly guessed that the first contestant was a giraffe keeper. It was then Arlene's turn to shine, and she correctly guessed that the second contestant had something to do with saunas. It was very appropriate that Phyllis would be the first to question Peggy Cass, especially since she and Peggy were both alumni of "To Tell the Truth." Ironically, a blindfolded Arlene asked if the mystery guest was Joan Fontaine, who was also a TTTT alum. Eventually, it was Joel who correctly identified Peggy Cass. Unfortunately, in the last game, the panel ran out of time before they figured out what the young man did with golf balls. - Sargebri (2004)
MORE ABOUT TTTT: Phyllis Newman and Joan Fontaine were on the daytime panel of TTTT until 1965, when Peggy Cass, along with the rest of the nighttime crew of Kitty Carlisle, Tom Poston and Orson Bean, moved to the daytime version to help boost the daytime version's ratings, as well as still appear on the night shift. When Peggy appeared on this episode of WML, the primetime version of TTTT had just been cancelled after 11 years on the air. John also mentioned that she still was doing the daytime version, which stayed on the air until 1968. In 1969, TTTT would return with much of the panel intact. Unfortunately, the show's long-time host, Bud Collyer, passed away before the new version went into production. Collyer's duties as host were assumed by former "I've Got a Secret" moderator Garry Moore. From the start, Moore's old friend and former IGAS panelist Bill Cullen was one of the main panelists on the new TTTT, and would remain in that position for its entire 1969-1978 run. While, of the classic CBS TTTT panel, Peggy and Kitty were the only ones to be mainstays of the new version from beginning to end, Tom and Orson would make frequent appearances in the early years of the syndicated TTTT's run. In addition, two of Cullen's IGAS panel-mates, Betsy Palmer and Henry Morgan, also appeared from time to time on the syndicated TTTT panel. A few years after its debut, one-time WML guest panelist Joe Garagiola became a frequent panelist. Garagiola became host of the syndicated version in 1977, after Garry decided to retire. - Sargebri (2004) with further info by W-B (2008)
MORE ABOUT JOEL GREY: As Arlene mentioned in her introduction, Joel had just won the Tony Award for Featured Actor in a Musical for his work in "Cabaret" playing the "Master of Ceremonies." (The Featured Actor Award is the Tony Award's equivalent of the Oscar's Best Supporting Actor Award.) Five years after his Tony triumph, he would win the 1972 Best Supporting Actor Oscar for the same role for the film version. This puts Grey in some rarified air. Also of note, Joel wouldn't be the only member of the Grey family to garner acclaim. Several years later, his daughter Jennifer Grey would get rave reviews for her role as "Jeanie Bueller" in the classic 1986 film "Ferris Bueller's Day Off." She also would earn accolades for her role as "Frances 'Baby' Houseman" in the 1987 hit film "Dirty Dancing." - Sargebri (2004)
Panel: Arlene Francis, Joel Grey, Phyllis Newman, Bennett Cerf.
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