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GSN's Ratings Way Down!

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    dad1153

    [1]Nov 3, 2005
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    From www.cableworld.com:

    Basic Cable

    Prime-Time Network Ranking

    Aug. 29-Sept. 25, 2005

    Net / Cable Univ. Rating / Households (in millions):

    FOXN 2.6 2242
    TNT 2.3 2022
    ESPN 2.0 1785
    DSNY 1.9 1682
    CNN 1.9 1676
    NAN** 1.6 1411
    LIF 1.5 1365
    USA 1.5 1317
    TOON 1.4 1241
    SPK 1.4 1236
    TBSC 1.2 1115
    FX 1.1 920
    MTV 1.0 884
    SCIF 1.0 869
    HIST 1.0 842
    A&E 0.9 794
    DISC 0.9 789
    AMC 0.9 758
    TVLD 0.9 748
    FAM 0.8 746
    HALL 1.0 721
    HGTV 0.8 709
    MSNB 0.8 673
    ESP2 0.7 666
    CORT 0.8 658
    CMDY 0.7 619
    TLC 0.7 591
    FOOD 0.6 542
    TWC 0.6 528
    APL 0.5 474
    VH1 0.5 460
    HLN 0.5 458
    BET 0.6 449
    LMN 0.7 333
    EN 0.4 320
    CMT 0.4 288
    BRAV 0.4 286
    TRAV 0.3 275
    TVGC 0.3 242
    WGNC 0.3 205
    NGC 0.4 201
    SOAP 0.5 199
    # 43.- GSN 0.3 193,000
    OXYG 0.3 183
    DHLT 0.3 178
    SC 0.2 157
    TDSN 0.3 143
    WE 0.3 140
    OLN 0.2 133
    TSOU 1.2 127

    From www.buzzerblog.com:

    "Can a New Poker Show Save GSN's Ratings?

    CableWorld published GSN's ratings: a .3 with a 198,000 household count. This is the lowest since the changeover from Game Show Network to GSN. However, this isn't stopping them from debuting a new poker show that will hopefully lift the spirits of the TV poker industry. The new 13 episode show, "High Stakes Poker" (No, it's not Poker Royale), will be a game where each player has to pay their way to play.

    Each person pays $100,000 just to enter, and each player can continue digging money out of their own wallets to continue playing. CEO Rich Cronin stated "The difference between tournament poker-even the World Series of Poker, with a $10,000 buy-in-and a cash game where a player can lose several hundred thousand dollars of their own money will be dynamic." Ian Valentine also said "They're playing with their own money and lots of it. This is real poker, and we will also capture the rarified milieu in which the high rollers live and play."

    GSN's new .3 is one of the lowest they've had in a long long long time. What do you think is the reason for this? What do you all think could they do to improve this?"


    I hope you've been taping your B&W oldies because it's a very real possibility GSN won't be around for the episodes of 'WML?' we are watching now to repeat another cycle!
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    astorino

    [2]Nov 4, 2005
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    Thanks for posting this, Vargas. We lost the other thread that had all these reports, and I'd been wondering how they were doing. I'm sad to see that it's not too well.
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    dad1153

    [3]Nov 4, 2005
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    If you're wondering why Fox News, CNN and MSNBC's viewership shot up higher than in previous months then remember that round-the-clock Hurricane Katrina coverage was taking place in late August/early September. Maybe that's why GSN's primetime ratings were down: people who'd normally be watching entertainment were watching the news instead. Or maybe, just maybe, GSN's classics-free primetime schedule of 'Millionaire,' 'Amazing Race' and 'Dodgeball'/'Ballbreakers'/'Casino Royale' either (a) sucks, (b) blows or (c) both sucks AND blows!

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    ymike673

    [4]Nov 4, 2005
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    What really hurt their ratings were all the WML fans who stopped watching because of all the premptions for "tributes" and phony theme weeks, LOL.
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    dad1153

    [5]Nov 4, 2005
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    Yep, those 16 folks that didn't stay up to watch until 3:30AM sent GSN's viewership into a tailspin.
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    ymike673

    [6]Nov 4, 2005
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    I bet its more like 25. But that could be more viewers then "Dodgeball" gets. LOL
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    The1Factotum1i1

    [7]Nov 4, 2005
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    For all you in the Nielson, or trendex, or whatever the rating services are called now:I think that even if you're just taping the early A.M. stuff, it counts as a "Viewer", because your set, or your cable is "Watching" that programme at that time.
    I can't believe there are those who would not get their absolute fill of the 24/7 news cycles of endlessly repeated hurricane stories this summer, enough to forgo any favorite entertainment show,any way.
    But maybe that's just it, GSN offers precious few things that could be anyone's favorites. Another card-playing snoozaganza? Why not high stakes marbles or dice throwing? Who cares if freakish vegas creatures gamble ill-gotten fortunes away? Maybe the nth go-round of the same flood-rescue footage is more watchable.
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    Stopette

    [8]Nov 5, 2005
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    The1Factotum1i1 wrote:
    For all you in the Nielson, or trendex, or whatever the rating services are called now:I think that even if you're just taping the early A.M. stuff, it counts as a "Viewer", because your set, or your cable is "Watching" that programme at that time.
    I can't believe there are those who would not get their absolute fill of the 24/7 news cycles of endlessly repeated hurricane stories this summer, enough to forgo any favorite entertainment show,any way.
    But maybe that's just it, GSN offers precious few things that could be anyone's favorites. Another card-playing snoozaganza? Why not high stakes marbles or dice throwing? Who cares if freakish vegas creatures gamble ill-gotten fortunes away? Maybe the nth go-round of the same flood-rescue footage is more watchable.


    Americans have just two choices: people gambling foolishly on GSN and news coverage of hurricanes? Maybe Karl Rove doesn't exist in your neck of the woods. If you find him upsetting, there's always a great actor like Anne Bancroft.
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    dad1153

    [9]Nov 25, 2005
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    These are the basic cable ratings for the week immediately following the ratings from the previous monthly report. And guess what? The downward trend is momentarily reversed and GSN picks-up dramatically from before. Could the low ratings have been a fluke caused by Katrina news coverage after all? Mmmphhh...

    Basic Cable

    Prime-Time Network Ranking

    Sept. 26-Oct. 30, 2005

    Net/Cable Univ. Rating House Holds(in millions)

    ESPN 2.4 2160
    DSNY 2.4 2058
    USA 2.1 1878
    TNT 1.9 1679
    LIF 1.6 1436
    NAN** 1.5 1380
    FOXN 1.5 1348
    TOON 1.5 1303
    TBSC 1.3 1181
    SPK 1.1 988
    MTV 1.0 877
    FX 1.0 837
    TVLD 0.9 813
    SCIF 0.9 791
    HIST 0.9 774
    A&E 0.9 774
    AMC 0.9 752
    HGTV 0.8 737
    CMDY 0.8 730
    HALL 1.0 709
    CNN 0.8 693
    FAM 0.8 690
    CORT 0.8 645
    DISC 0.7 627
    ESP2 0.7 615
    FOOD 0.6 565
    TLC 0.6 548
    VH1 0.6 518
    BET 0.6 482
    APL 0.5 412
    BRAV 0.4 355
    EN 0.4 333
    TWC 0.4 332
    LMN 0.7 318
    MSNB 0.4 301
    HLN 0.3 301
    TRAV 0.4 300
    CMT 0.3 262
    TVGC 0.3 245
    SOAP 0.5 218
    WGNC 0.3 214
    #42.- GSN 0.4 211,000 thousand
    NGC 0.4 201
    DHLT 0.3 190
    OXYG 0.3 186
    SC 0.3 171
    WE 0.3 141
    OLN 0.2 134
    TDSN 0.3 131
    NOGG 0.3 113

    So put down the alarm fires, GSN seems to be hanging in there!
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    sixtyfivealive

    [10]Nov 25, 2005
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    dad1153 wrote:
    These are the basic cable ratings for the week immediately following the ratings from the previous monthly report. And guess what? The downward trend is momentarily reversed and GSN picks-up dramatically from before. Could the low ratings have been a fluke caused by Katrina news coverage after all? Mmmphhh...

    So put down the alarm fires, GSN seems to be hanging in there!


    Yeay!!!!!!!!!!!! clap-clap-clap-clap-clap-clap
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    agent_0042

    [11]Nov 25, 2005
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    It's no secret that GSN has turned pretty much to garbage lately. Yes, some of the stuff they added, I like(d), speciffically, Celebrity Blackjack, World Series of Blackjack, The Amazing Race, The Mole, Dog Eat Dog and Who Dares Wins.

    However ---

    Celebrity Blackjack --- After two seasons I grew really bored with it and resigned the TV.com (back then it was still TV Tome) guide. When it was made TV.com, I was restored as editor by the points system. I resigned again. If they show a new edition, I will not be watching.

    World Series of Blackjack --- Still a good show, but they need to get more episode.

    The Amazing Race --- It was an awesome acquisition on their part, but they shouldn't have blitz-aired every episode over the entire summer and now they're doing all sorts of marathons.

    The Mole --- The jerks promised to show the entire thing and then stopped showing it after I think the first or second season.

    Dog Eat Dog --- Good fun, but there are too few episodes and they show it all the time.

    Who Dares Wins --- This was an awsome Australian port! They never should have taken it off the air!

    And remember when GSN used to show their "Feast of Favorites" on Thanksgiving? Well, so long for that.
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    dad1153

    [12]Nov 25, 2005
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    agent_0042 wrote:
    It's no secret that GSN has turned pretty much to garbage lately. Yes, some of the stuff they added, I like(d), speciffically, Celebrity Blackjack, World Series of Blackjack, The Amazing Race, The Mole, Dog Eat Dog and Who Dares Wins.

    However ---

    Celebrity Blackjack --- After two seasons I grew really bored with it and resigned the TV.com (back then it was still TV Tome) guide. When it was made TV.com, I was restored as editor by the points system. I resigned again. If they show a new edition, I will not be watching.


    This one is a guilty pleasure of mine. When the right mix of celebrities is on (like the Season 2 episode where they had that smoking-hot reporter from E! and her so-called 'secret formula for winning') it can be really fun to watch. Too bad GSN has to scrape the bottom of the celebrity barrell by inviting such D grade celebrities like the lesser Baldwin brothers and the winner of the NBC stand-up comedy show contest (the fat white kid, what's his name?).

    agent_0042 wrote:
    World Series of Blackjack --- Still a good show, but they need to get more episode.


    I love this show when GSN airs new episodes (the repeats bore me to tears though) and would only wish that GSN did a version where regular people with basic Blackjack training instead of gambling pros compete (like a gameshow). This and the celebrity show above are the only card shows I watch (I can't follow or understand poker), but GSN never has enough new episodes of either to hold my attention for more than a couple of months.

    agent_0042 wrote:
    The Amazing Race --- It was an awesome acquisition on their part, but they shouldn't have blitz-aired every episode over the entire summer and now they're doing all sorts of marathons.


    I loved watching the first five seasons that I didn't watch, but you're right. This should have been aired Monday through Friday (with repeats on weekends), and instead GSN made it hard on its viewers to keep-up by making them watch on Saturdays and Sundays (when many a viewers probably wanted to go out or have a life). They've learned their lesson though, and come January 2nd 'TAR' will only be on Wednesday through Sunday at 9PM ET. I can't stand to watch repeats of shows with fewer than 100 episodes but who knows, in a year or two (when 'Race' repeats are still on GSN) I might get the urge to watch them again one more time.

    agent_0042 wrote:
    The Mole --- The jerks promised to show the entire thing and then stopped showing it after I think the first or second season.


    Ironically I never liked or watched this one back then GSN became the GSN of today, but now that Anderson Cooper has become notorious as CNN's new golden boy I'd really like to see how he hosted this reality show back then. Who knows, maybe an adventurous GSN executive can get the rights to this one dirt-cheap and put it on again on weekends!

    agent_0042 wrote:
    Dog Eat Dog --- Good fun, but there are too few episodes and they show it all the time.


    Without a doubt GSN's most rerun-abused show to date (even more than the 'Weakest Link' and 'Greed,' and that's saying something). I only watched 10 minutes of it (plus about 10 bazillion hours worth of the inane promos GSN keeps making) and developed an instant dislike for it that I've never felt for any other show in my life. I consider it a badge of honor and part of my principle to despise and never even think of tuning in to this piece of garbage just because I know that's what GSN's demographics-obsessed executives want my 32-year old psyche to do. Well, screw them!

    agent_0042 wrote:
    Who Dares Wins --- This was an awsome Australian port! They never should have taken it off the air!

    And remember when GSN used to show their "Feast of Favorites" on Thanksgiving? Well, so long for that.


    That Australian show blew chunks (it felt like a poor man's Australian knockoff of 'Street Smarts'), and the absence of a Feast of Favorites is GSN management not giving a crap about what traditional game show fans want. Is all about 'Amazing Race' and casino shows for them now!
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    agent_0042

    [13]Nov 26, 2005
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    This one is a guilty pleasure of mine. When the right mix of celebrities is on (like the Season 2 episode where they had that smoking-hot reporter from E! and her so-called 'secret formula for winning') it can be really fun to watch. Too bad GSN has to scrape the bottom of the celebrity barrell by inviting such D grade celebrities like the lesser Baldwin brothers and the winner of the NBC stand-up comedy show contest (the fat white kid, what's his name?).

    No idea on the comedian. As for the Baldwin brothers, yeah, that sucked, although it was nice to see Caroline Rhea whip them. Anyway, I just got really tired of it and so I gave up on it.

    [quote]I love this show when GSN airs new episodes (the repeats bore me to tears though) and would only wish that GSN did a version where regular people with basic Blackjack training instead of gambling pros compete (like a gameshow). This and the celebrity show above are the only card shows I watch (I can't follow or understand poker), but GSN never has enough new episodes of either to hold my attention for more than a couple of months.[/qutoe]
    I can't follow poker either, so I too don't watch those. I can really get into this blackjack though. I've been researching it and I think I may just have the skills to do fairly well at it.

    :
    Ironically I never liked or watched this one back then GSN became the GSN of today, but now that Anderson Cooper has become notorious as CNN's new golden boy I'd really like to see how he hosted this reality show back then. Who knows, maybe an adventurous GSN executive can get the rights to this one dirt-cheap and put it on again on weekends!

    The first season and the celebrity Hawaii edition are both available on DVD.

    :
    Without a doubt GSN's most rerun-abused show to date (even more than the 'Weakest Link' and 'Greed,' and that's saying something). I only watched 10 minutes of it (plus about 10 bazillion hours worth of the inane promos GSN keeps making) and developed an instant dislike for it that I've never felt for any other show in my life. I consider it a badge of honor and part of my principle to despise and never even think of tuning in to this piece of garbage just because I know that's what GSN's demographics-obsessed executives want my 32-year old psyche to do. Well, screw them!

    Yeah, I feel that. Still, I felt it was good for laughs and a bit of fun, if nothing else.

    :
    That Australian show blew chunks (it felt like a poor man's Australian knockoff of 'Street Smarts')

    Really? I always thought of it more as a tame version of Fear Factor (which I'm surprised GSN hasn't acquired yet, heh.)

    :
    and the absence of a Feast of Favorites is GSN management not giving a crap about what traditional game show fans want. Is all about 'Amazing Race' and casino shows for them now!

    Well, maybe if I win a huge killing at that blackjack, I can create the RGShow Network --- real game shows for real game show fans. Or, at least, I can dream.

    About a couple of the other shows you mentioned:

    Weakest Link --- Used to like it pretty well, but now old and tired.

    Greed --- Towards the top of the barrel for me, but again, played to death.

    Oh, and Who Wants to be a Millionaire --- used to watch all the time, but maybe this one is the one they've rerun-abused the most.
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    sixtyfivealive

    [14]Nov 28, 2005
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    Especially the celebrity versions of Millionaire.
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    astorino

    [15]Dec 26, 2005
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    Maybe "Betty White Christmas" helped the ratings!
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    Linneman

    [16]Dec 29, 2005
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    The FCC proposals to require cable operators to "unbundle" their packages and allow cable subscribers to purchase access to individual channels would likely have a great effect on the smaller and less watched channels. It would be "a la carte" programming.

    I'm not sure exactly what this effect might be on GSN. My guess is that it would not be good if consumers had to make a specific choice and pay separately for the channel.

    Anyone else have a better crystal ball? The link to a column on this topic in the Denver Post is below.

    http://www.denverpost.com/ostrow/ci_3292654
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    astorino

    [17]Jan 6, 2006
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    Linneman wrote:
    If there's a procedure to create clickable links I'd appreciate enlightenment.

    http://www.denverpost.com/ostrow/ci_3292654


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