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To Tell the Truth, with Mark Goodson Hosting

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    agent_0042

    [1]Dec 4, 2006
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    It may not have been in black-and-white, but that was a rare treat GSN gave us --- an episode of To Tell the Truth hosted by Mark Goodson. Interesting games, too. Was it just me, though, or was there almost as much ads as content on this one?
    Edited on 12/04/2006 9:42pm
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    ymike673

    [2]Dec 4, 2006
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    There was 18 minutes of content. About normal for a day time game show in the 1960's.
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    [3]Dec 4, 2006
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    I noticed the saturation on the color of this episode was par for the course in the '60's (obviously, they were using Norelco PC-60's at that point) - sorta' gives me some hint (along with the surviving color videotapes of the nighttime and daytime CBS Passwords of that year of 1967 from which that TTTT episode emanated) of how saturated a color videotape of WML? from its final "classic CBS" season would've been if they ever existed - but from our real-world perspective today, that's all we can do.  Dream, that is.
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    astorino

    [4]Dec 4, 2006
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    Does anybody know the air date of this TTTT?  Something to pinpoint the year would be Betsy Palmer's upcoming tour of "South Pacific."
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    Sargebri

    [5]Dec 5, 2006
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    The way it looked it might have been from around 1967.  The reason I say this is due to the appearance of the audience vote, which was introduced right around that time.

    Also, Mark Goodson would again host the show several years later during the Alex Trebek run.  Trebek's wife went into labor just as taping was about to begin, so Goodson caem on as the last minute replacement.

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    ymike673

    [6]Dec 5, 2006
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    astorino wrote:
    Does anybody know the air date of this TTTT?  Something to pinpoint the year would be Betsy Palmer's upcoming tour of "South Pacific."

    It was aired on a Thursday because Mark says Bud might be back tomorrow or Monday.

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    W-B

    [7]Dec 5, 2006
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    It was indeed from 1967; I'm as curious as everyone else as to the exact date (not just the day it aired).  There is a guide to the surviving daytime TTTT episodes:
    http://www.kinescopes.com/TTTT_am.html
    Two episodes are cited of this particular week's run where Mr. Goodson subbed for Mr. Collyer, and Betsy Palmer for Kitty Carlisle.

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    ymike673

    [8]Dec 5, 2006
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    The first show listed with Goodson as sub-host was the one aired by GSN. The first game was the James Bond stuntwomen.  And by the list we can determine that the show aired on a Thursday sometime after April 14,1967.

    Edited on 12/12/2006 5:54am
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    W-B

    [9]Dec 5, 2006
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    ymike673 wrote:
    The first show listed with Goodson as sub-host was the one aired by GSN. The first game was the James Bond stuntwomen.  And by the list we can determine that the show aired on a Thursday sometime after April 14,1967.

    Could this have been a tie-in to the latest Casino Royale, the first version of which was released around the time of the '67 TTTT (or was it You Only Live Twice?).
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    ymike673

    [10]Dec 6, 2006
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    The James Bond film the stuntwoman worked on was "Thunderball".

    Edited on 12/07/2006 5:52pm
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    W-B

    [11]Dec 6, 2006
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    Ah, thanks for the clarification (obviously, I'd missed all but the very last part).
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    mehitable

    [12]Dec 10, 2006
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    I'd never even heard of a Namu the Killer Whale movie. The show was pretty good.
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    [13]Dec 11, 2006
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    Yeah, it was a pretty good show. And I agree, it was probably a Casino Royale tie-in.

    We got another color To Tell the Truth last night. I didn't recognize this version of the show, but it was pretty good. The first one was very interesting. I'm pretty sure I've seen a picture of Chuck Jones before, but for some reason when they came out on-stage, I got the idea that it was #1. Then, as the game progressed, I started to get the feeling that maybe it was #3, who I had previously eliminated. I shoulda gone with that instinct, because #3 turned out to be right.

    And then there was Mary Kay Ash. I can't imagine she could possibly still be alive, but I'll check... checking Wikipedia... Nope. Passed away in 2001. Wow. I guess if she passed away then, it's quite possible she could have lived till today. She was only 86 years old when she passed.

    Oh, BTW, Nipsy's line --- "Some of the products on television don't do what they claim. I took a bath in Chlorox --- came out lookin' the same!" Hilarious! I've enjoyed what I've seen of Nipsy's apperances on Match Game too. He's a great comic.
    Edited on 12/11/2006 11:55pm
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    astorino

    [14]Dec 12, 2006
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    With the exception of Nipsey Russell and Margaret Trudeau, I'd never heard of any of the people on the December 11, 2006 color TTTT that GSN aired. W-B and I put together the list of the people who appeared on this program:

    This episode came from the 1980-1981 version of "To Tell the Truth," and was hosted by Robin Ward. The first contestant was legendary animated cartoon director Chuck Jones and two impostors. The second and final contestant was the founder of Mary Kay Cosmetics, Mary Kay Ash, and two imposters.

    The panelists were Pat Collins (from "Good Morning America"), comedian Nipsey Russell, former Canadian First Lady Margaret Trudeau and "the toast of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania," John Wade.

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    agent_0042

    [15]Dec 12, 2006
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    Thanks, astorino. I appreciate that info.

    Oh, and I think I've heard of Margaret Trudeau once or twice before somewhere.
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    outoffog

    [16]Dec 13, 2006
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    It just irks me that the videotaped episodes of the daytime edition of "TO TELL THE TRUTH" (1965-'68 ) have the original commercials within them, and that NOBODY is capitalizing on this treasure trove of mid-'60s advertising! I saw ONE SECOND of that Campbell's "Bounty Stew" commercial from that April 1967 tape [what IS the grocer, standing in front of that "Bounty" display, wearing that "Bounty" button, worrying about?], and I'm dying to know  what Campbell Soup's strategy was in introducing it??   
    Edited on 12/15/2006 1:26am
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    TVGord

    [17]Dec 13, 2006
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    astorino wrote:

    ...former Canadian First Lady Margaret Trudeau...

    Just for the sake of accuracy, we don't call the wife (or husband) of the Prime Minister by any title, such as "First Lady".  Actually, up here, spouses stay very much in the background. 

    Margaret Trudeau was an exception, though!  At the height of the disco/Studio 54 craze in the late 70s, she left Pierre Trudeau and spent a lot of her time at that famed NYC nightclub, being that day's version of Britney Spears or Lindsay Lohan (right down to the pictures taken of her with no underwear on).  She was also widely rumored to have slept with Mick Jagger, Ted Kennedy and Geraldo Rivera (among others).  In fact, in the early days of Saturday Night Live, they had a talk-show sketch where all of the guests claimed to have slept with Margaret Trudeau.

    She lives a fairly quiet life these days, not far from where I live.  She does work for a group that works to develop sustainable water supplies for third-world countries called WaterCan. 

    It was a big surprise to see her on this edition of To Tell The Truth (especially hosted by another minor Canadian celebrity, Robin Ward, hosting)!

    Edited on 12/13/2006 8:10pm
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    astorino

    [18]Dec 15, 2006
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    Thanks for the info, TV Gord!

    Here is more info on John Ward:

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    David B. wrote in the Yahoo Groups WML Forum:

    Date: Dec 13, 2006

    I'm in radio in Pittsburgh and asked a colleague about John Ward. He said John Wade used to be co-host of "Pittsburgh 2Day" on KDKA-TV. It was an afternoon show that aired at 2:00 PM, preempting "As the World Turns" or whatever else was airing on CBS at the time.

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    agent_0042

    [19]Dec 17, 2006
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    outoffog --- I agree with you about the old commercials. At least GSN, having this material in their archives, could come up with some kind of special or something. That would be the least they could do.
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    TVGord

    [20]Dec 17, 2006
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    agent_0042 wrote:
    outoffog --- I agree with you about the old commercials. At least GSN, having this material in their archives, could come up with some kind of special or something. That would be the least they could do.

    Wouldn't it be a logistical nightmare, though?  Wouldn't they have to clear every commercial with the original company or its (for wont of a better word) descendants?  I don't think it's just as easy as "hey, let's show these commercials", as much as I wish that were so!  :-)

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