Will & Grace

Season 4 Episode 17

Someone Old, Someplace New (1)

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Aired Monday 9:30 PM Feb 28, 2002 on NBC
8.7
out of 10
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60 votes
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Someone Old, Someplace New (1)
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Will and Grace feel they need more elbow room, so they search for larger digs and find an exquisite place—despite the efforts of Sandra Bernhard—but to finance the move, they illegally sub-let their old apartment. Meanwhile, a well-intentioned Jack begins filming a documentary of Karen's colorful life to celebrate her birthday but accidentally stumbles upon her estranged, lowlife mom.moreless

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SUBMIT REVIEW
  • The first to a great episode.

    10
    This episode is the first to the second part with Will and Grace trying to buy a different place and Jack has decided to make a documentary of Karen's life. He interviews many people in her life and even goes to Will and Grace. He interviews himself and the part I found hilarious was when Jack was filming himself while Rosario helped and he asked her what the line was, she told him, then he said that that was going on the gag reel. The other storyline is about Will and Grace trying to live in Will's apartment and they figure out it isn't working out for some reason and try to get a new apartment. This episode ends with Karen's mother, Lois, walking into Will and Grace's apartmeng, then Karen walks out. A total cliffhanger. She even becomes serious and unlike regular Karen.moreless
  • Will and Grace decide to find a new apartment and Jack makes a video to celebrate Karen's life.

    8.5
    This episode is funny and well written. Karen was great in this one and I am pretty sure she can anything and be funny, just so long as she grabs her chest. I usually don't like when they throw cameos in for no reason, but this was well done. Sandra Bernhard didn't have to do much but be herself and swear a lot.
Eric McCormack

Eric McCormack

Will Truman

Debra Messing

Debra Messing

Grace Adler

Megan Mullally

Megan Mullally

Karen Walker

Sean Hayes

Sean Hayes

Jack McFarland

Shelley Morrison

Shelley Morrison

Rosario Salazar (Season 3 - 7 Recurring)

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  • TRIVIA (0)

  • QUOTES (6)

    • Jack: We are here at the apartment that sex forgot... to hear from two of Karen Walker's dearest, dearest, dearest-- line?
      Rosario: Friends.
      Jack: Friends! That's right. That is going on the gag reel! That is hilarious!

    • Jack: I met Karen's mother. She's not dead. She's a cocktail waitress. It turns out Karen's father died when she was seven. Oh, my God. Can you imagine what Karen looked like when she was seven years old? Cute little pumps, cute little martini, cute little pills.

    • Grace: Well, you're a loud pee'er. I swear it sounds like the last hour of The Perfect Storm in there.

    • Jack: Karen, I got you what I believe, pants-down, is the best birthday gift ever!
      Karen: Oh, honey, is it my new liver?

    • Jack: So, Lois Whitley tell us, what exactly is your relationship to one Miss Karen Walker?
      Lois: I'm her mother.
      (awed hush)
      Rosario: Santa Maria, it has a mother!

    • Jack: Anyway, I'll have a a club soda with two teaspoons of sugar, a splash of Rose's Lime Juice, half crushed ice, half cubed and an umbrella.
      Lois: One beer.
      Jack: Excuse me, rudeness! I would like the drink I ordered, and maybe even a 'Hello, my name is phbbt, and I'll be your server tonight.'
      Lois: Listen, Maria. I've been on this shift since, what time is it now, uh--1947? My back aches, my feet hurt and the only thing holding up my boobs is hope. So you'll enjoy your beer.
      Jack: Beer would be great, thanks.

  • NOTES (1)

  • ALLUSIONS (5)

    • Karen: Sunny's out of bed? Finally! Von Bulow, get your ass in here!

      Sunny Von Bulow was a socialite who's been in a coma since 1980. Her husband was convicted of attempted murder as it's suspected that he injected Sunny with insulin which caused her unexplained coma. This story was the basis of the 1990 film Reversal Of Fortune.

    • Rosario: Take it easy, Martin Score-sissy.

      This is a reference to Academy Award-winning director Martin Scorsese.

    • Jack: I'd love to include your mother in my Project Queenlight.

      This is a pun on Project Greenlight, a contest and documentary series founded by Matt Damon and Ben Affleck to give aspiring screenwriters their start in show business.

    • Will: You know the most annoying thing about living here?
      (Jack enters)
      Jack: Hello.

      This is reminiscent of the '70s sitcom Laverne and Shirley, where Lenny and Squiggy would enter the girls' apartment with an annoying, "Hello".

    • Episode Title: Someone Old, Someplace New

      A play on the traditional wedding verse:
      Something old, something new.
      Something borrowed, something blue.

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