Okay, first of all, I love Will and Grace and in my opinion it takes a true fan to be able to point out the faults in something. Man, this was one hell of a fault!
I am currently re-watching Season 8, (I leant it to someone and they gave it back after I had finished Season 3) and I was shocked and appalled at how un-funny this episode was! The lack of laughter, the laughter at jokes that weren't really funny, it infuriated me!
Jack and Karen didn't have that same rapport that they have had in the previous Seasons and TBH I think Malcom is just a useless plot point who has the occasional funny line linked with killing someone(or cutting off some of their tongue in this case!)
Ellen and Larry were just plain boring and the connection between Will and Grace just seemed to flop.
It seems to me that (SO FAR) this Season is preparing for its wind down before it disappears off of our screens.
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Karen is forced to come to terms with her feelings for her presumed-dead husband when Jack gives his opinion on her men dilemma. Karen refuses to forgive Stan and wants nothing to do with him--until she learns how willingly Stan gave her up to Malcolm. Meanwhile, much to Grace's dismay, the new, altruistic Will begins doting on an elderly man whom he invites to their 10th Anniversary Game Night Spectacular.moreless
 Debra Messing |
Grace Adler |
 Eric McCormack |
Will Truman |
 Megan Mullally |
Karen Walker |
 Sean Hayes |
Jack McFarland |
 Richard Chamberlin |
Clyde |
Guest Star |
 Leigh-Allyn Baker |
Ellen |
Recurring Role |
 Tim Bagley |
Larry |
Recurring Role |
 Alec Baldwin |
Malcolm |
Recurring Role |
Trivia, Notes, Quotes and Allusions
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TRIVIA (5)
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Will said that Clyde was born in 1934, which is the year Richard Chamberlain, the actor playing the part of Clyde, was born.
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Song: The song that Jack sings when he is in the steam room with Stan is "Stormy Weather" by Ethel Waters.
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The menu that Will & Grace give Clyde to keep score on is from Happy Noodle, the restaurant that Grace boycotted but then couldn't resist in the season 6 episode A Gay/December Romance.
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This is Larry's first appearance since the season 7 episode "Key Party".
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This is Ellen's first appearance since the season 7 episode "Sour Balls".
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QUOTES (4)
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Karen: Thank God I have plans with Malcolm tonight Jack: Malcolm? I can't wait until your Malcolm is your Malcolm Ex.
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Will: I saw this old photo of him on a beach. It could have been me... except for the Korean War going on in the background.
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(Clyde admits he is not gay He was once married to a doctor who cheated on him.)
Will: Wow, he's really not me.
Larry: He's you, Grace.
Ellen: (on the phone) Did you hear that, Rob? He's Grace.
Grace: That's crazy.
Will: Wait a minute. If you're not gay why are you getting meals from Project Angel Food?
Clyde: Why not? It's food and it's free.
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Karen: ...I want you to accept that and bless our union.
Jack:I can't do that!
Karen: Bless it!
Jack :No!
Karen: Bless It!!
Jack: No!!
(Karen fake sneezes)
Jack: Bless you!
Karen: Huuhaha!
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NOTES (0)
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ALLUSIONS (2)
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Grace: (playing charades) Um, trashy pop singer. She pees in gas stations.
Clyde: Oh, this is an easy one! Lola Falana.
Grace: (giving a clue) Oops, I did it again.This is in reference to Britney Spears and her first successful single, "Oops! I Did It Again".
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Episode Title: Steams Like Old Times
This is a pun on the saying "Seems Like Old Times," when people are remarking on the present being like the past.
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