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    Chaz_

    [41]Oct 24, 2006
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    Irmalover wrote:
    There's almost no speaking of a 'Nerissa vs. Phobos'. She worked in the background to get him out of the way without being noticed. She has manipulated everyone who was involved to the downfall of Phobos' supremacy.
    Her Knights of Vengeance were nothing but puppets who had to cause destruction and disorder. But they weren't flawless. Since then they have no importance at all, just like Phobos, Cedric, all Lurdens and the military being loyal to Phobos. It wouldn't even matter to Nerissa if all those malicious guys were sent to oblivion.

    I was just about to bring up this point.
    The one running the show, all the way back before Season 1 was Nerrisa.
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    Babuna

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    I agree!
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    mist33

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    Chaz_ wrote:
    Irmalover wrote:
    There's almost no speaking of a 'Nerissa vs. Phobos'. She worked in the background to get him out of the way without being noticed. She has manipulated everyone who was involved to the downfall of Phobos' supremacy. Her Knights of Vengeance were nothing but puppets who had to cause destruction and disorder. But they weren't flawless. Since then they have no importance at all, just like Phobos, Cedric, all Lurdens and the military being loyal to Phobos. It wouldn't even matter to Nerissa if all those malicious guys were sent to oblivion.
    I was just about to bring up this point. The one running the show, all the way back before Season 1 was Nerrisa.

    That proves how good she is at manipulating people but how good is she at fighting out in the open without her tricks.

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    samscorpio

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    In show Nerissa win now, in the start I doubt she can even chat with him.
    Phobos was in S1 & 1st saga very "high & looking to everyone down", but 4th saga he learned from his mistakes, & he manipulated the whole Council.
    plus He don't get his hands dirty is an evil point for him, not against him. (forcing minions is more evil than do it by yourself).
    maybe he failed because Lord Cedric is initially a good fellow ( like we will know in future comics ) & he was his right arm.
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    thefolenangel

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    samscorpio wrote:
    In show Nerissa win now, in the start I doubt she can even chat with him.
    Phobos was in S1 & 1st saga very "high & looking to everyone down", but 4th saga he learned from his mistakes, & he manipulated the whole Council.
    plus He don't get his hands dirty is an evil point for him, not against him. (forcing minions is more evil than do it by yourself).
    maybe he failed because Lord Cedric is initially a good fellow ( like we will know in future comics ) & he was his right arm.

    I agree with *samscorpio
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    samscorpio

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    Nerissa was a good one who was corrupted,

    Phobos' will of evil is undoubtful.

    Nerissa seeks revenge ( not truly evil , a lot of good guys seek revenge too , like Gladiator ) ,

    Phobos the name of Evil seeks Domination over the universe for Power .

    Edited on 10/24/2006 9:15am
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    thefolenangel

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    samscorpio wrote:

    Nerissa was a good one who was corrupted,

    Phobos' will of evil is undoubtful.

    Nerissa seeks revenge ( not truly evil , a lot of good guys seek revenge too , like Gladiator ) ,

    Phobos the name of Evil seeks Domination over the universe for Power .


    as i say i agree with him ^^
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    mist33

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    thefolenangel wrote:
    samscorpio wrote:

    Nerissa was a good one who was corrupted,

    Phobos' will of evil is undoubtful.

    Nerissa seeks revenge ( not truly evil , a lot of good guys seek revenge too , like Gladiator ) ,

    Phobos the name of Evil seeks Domination over the universe for Power .

    as i say i agree with him ^^

    I sort of agree except in the show Nerissa doesn't seem to want revenge against the Oricle, she had the perfect opportunity to do so when he was locked in the mini veil but she left him alone.

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    Chaz_

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    mist33 wrote:
    thefolenangel wrote:
    samscorpio wrote:

    Nerissa was a good one who was corrupted,

    Phobos' will of evil is undoubtful.

    Nerissa seeks revenge ( not truly evil , a lot of good guys seek revenge too , like Gladiator ) ,

    Phobos the name of Evil seeks Domination over the universe for Power .

    as i say i agree with him ^^

    I sort of agree except in the show Nerissa doesn't seem to want revenge against the Oricle, she had the perfect opportunity to do so when he was locked in the mini veil but she left him alone.


    Depends which story your on about, in the comics it's all about revenge.
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    mist33

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    Chaz_ wrote:
    mist33 wrote:
    thefolenangel wrote:
    samscorpio wrote:

    Nerissa was a good one who was corrupted,

    Phobos' will of evil is undoubtful.

    Nerissa seeks revenge ( not truly evil , a lot of good guys seek revenge too , like Gladiator ) ,

    Phobos the name of Evil seeks Domination over the universe for Power .

    as i say i agree with him ^^

    I sort of agree except in the show Nerissa doesn't seem to want revenge against the Oricle, she had the perfect opportunity to do so when he was locked in the mini veil but she left him alone.

    Depends which story your on about, in the comics it's all about revenge.

    In the show she is trying to bring peace by unifing rule of all the different demensions under one persons rule. So she says anyways.

    Edited on 10/24/2006 9:27am
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    thefolenangel

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    mist33 wrote:
    Chaz_ wrote:
    mist33 wrote:
    thefolenangel wrote:
    samscorpio wrote:

    Nerissa was a good one who was corrupted,

    Phobos' will of evil is undoubtful.

    Nerissa seeks revenge ( not truly evil , a lot of good guys seek revenge too , like Gladiator ) ,

    Phobos the name of Evil seeks Domination over the universe for Power .

    as i say i agree with him ^^

    I sort of agree except in the show Nerissa doesn't seem to want revenge against the Oricle, she had the perfect opportunity to do so when he was locked in the mini veil but she left him alone.

    Depends which story your on about, in the comics it's all about revenge.

    In the show she is trying to bring peace by unifing rule of all the different demensions under one persons rule. So she says anyways.


    so she is a good girl ^^
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    Chaz_

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    thefolenangel wrote:
    mist33 wrote:
    Chaz_ wrote:
    mist33 wrote:
    thefolenangel wrote:
    samscorpio wrote:

    Nerissa was a good one who was corrupted,

    Phobos' will of evil is undoubtful.

    Nerissa seeks revenge ( not truly evil , a lot of good guys seek revenge too , like Gladiator ) ,

    Phobos the name of Evil seeks Domination over the universe for Power .

    as i say i agree with him ^^

    I sort of agree except in the show Nerissa doesn't seem to want revenge against the Oricle, she had the perfect opportunity to do so when he was locked in the mini veil but she left him alone.

    Depends which story your on about, in the comics it's all about revenge.

    In the show she is trying to bring peace by unifing rule of all the different demensions under one persons rule. So she says anyways.


    so she is a good girl ^^

    Who want's to rule with an iron fist, and using that as an excuse.
    In other words, another Phobose, but with bigger goals.
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    mist33

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    Chaz_ wrote:
    thefolenangel wrote:
    mist33 wrote:
    Chaz_ wrote:
    mist33 wrote:
    thefolenangel wrote:
    samscorpio wrote:

    Nerissa was a good one who was corrupted,

    Phobos' will of evil is undoubtful.

    Nerissa seeks revenge ( not truly evil , a lot of good guys seek revenge too , like Gladiator ) ,

    Phobos the name of Evil seeks Domination over the universe for Power .

    as i say i agree with him ^^

    I sort of agree except in the show Nerissa doesn't seem to want revenge against the Oricle, she had the perfect opportunity to do so when he was locked in the mini veil but she left him alone.

    Depends which story your on about, in the comics it's all about revenge.

    In the show she is trying to bring peace by unifing rule of all the different demensions under one persons rule. So she says anyways.

    so she is a good girl ^^
    Who want's to rule with an iron fist, and using that as an excuse. In other words, another Phobose, but with bigger goals.

    I don't think she wanted to rule them remember in O she was about to give Caleb the Heart of Meridian and said only you can complete my vision.

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    thefolenangel

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    mist33 wrote:
    Chaz_ wrote:
    thefolenangel wrote:
    mist33 wrote:
    Chaz_ wrote:
    mist33 wrote:
    thefolenangel wrote:
    samscorpio wrote:

    Nerissa was a good one who was corrupted,

    Phobos' will of evil is undoubtful.

    Nerissa seeks revenge ( not truly evil , a lot of good guys seek revenge too , like Gladiator ) ,

    Phobos the name of Evil seeks Domination over the universe for Power .

    as i say i agree with him ^^

    I sort of agree except in the show Nerissa doesn't seem to want revenge against the Oricle, she had the perfect opportunity to do so when he was locked in the mini veil but she left him alone.

    Depends which story your on about, in the comics it's all about revenge.

    In the show she is trying to bring peace by unifing rule of all the different demensions under one persons rule. So she says anyways.

    so she is a good girl ^^
    Who want's to rule with an iron fist, and using that as an excuse. In other words, another Phobose, but with bigger goals.

    I don't think she wanted to rule them remember in O she was about to give Caleb the Heart of Meridian and said only you can complete my vision.


    because she don't want to rule she want Caleb to do this sho he can be happy but she don't realize that her son is happy ... i think she only want Caleb to be happy !
    Edited on 10/24/2006 9:39am
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    mist33

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    thefolenangel wrote:
    mist33 wrote:
    Chaz_ wrote:
    thefolenangel wrote:
    mist33 wrote:
    Chaz_ wrote:
    mist33 wrote:
    thefolenangel wrote:
    samscorpio wrote:

    Nerissa was a good one who was corrupted,

    Phobos' will of evil is undoubtful.

    Nerissa seeks revenge ( not truly evil , a lot of good guys seek revenge too , like Gladiator ) ,

    Phobos the name of Evil seeks Domination over the universe for Power .

    as i say i agree with him ^^

    I sort of agree except in the show Nerissa doesn't seem to want revenge against the Oricle, she had the perfect opportunity to do so when he was locked in the mini veil but she left him alone.

    Depends which story your on about, in the comics it's all about revenge.

    In the show she is trying to bring peace by unifing rule of all the different demensions under one persons rule. So she says anyways.

    so she is a good girl ^^
    Who want's to rule with an iron fist, and using that as an excuse. In other words, another Phobose, but with bigger goals.

    I don't think she wanted to rule them remember in O she was about to give Caleb the Heart of Meridian and said only you can complete my vision.

    because she don't want to rule she want Caleb to do this sho he can be happy but she don't realize that her son is happy ... i think she only want Caleb to be happy !

    I think its not quite that simple if she wanted him happy why did she threaten to kill him when he stole the heart of Meridian right before Nerissa was going to give it to him willingly 

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    mist33 wrote:
    thefolenangel wrote:
    mist33 wrote:
    Chaz_ wrote:
    thefolenangel wrote:
    mist33 wrote:
    Chaz_ wrote:
    mist33 wrote:
    thefolenangel wrote:
    samscorpio wrote:

    Nerissa was a good one who was corrupted,

    Phobos' will of evil is undoubtful.

    Nerissa seeks revenge ( not truly evil , a lot of good guys seek revenge too , like Gladiator ) ,

    Phobos the name of Evil seeks Domination over the universe for Power .

    as i say i agree with him ^^

    I sort of agree except in the show Nerissa doesn't seem to want revenge against the Oricle, she had the perfect opportunity to do so when he was locked in the mini veil but she left him alone.

    Depends which story your on about, in the comics it's all about revenge.

    In the show she is trying to bring peace by unifing rule of all the different demensions under one persons rule. So she says anyways.

    so she is a good girl ^^
    Who want's to rule with an iron fist, and using that as an excuse. In other words, another Phobose, but with bigger goals.

    I don't think she wanted to rule them remember in O she was about to give Caleb the Heart of Meridian and said only you can complete my vision.

    because she don't want to rule she want Caleb to do this sho he can be happy but she don't realize that her son is happy ... i think she only want Caleb to be happy !

    I think its not quite that simple if she wanted him happy why did she threaten to kill him when he stole the heart of Meridian right before Nerissa was going to give it to him willingly


    Think that she was only mad at him !
    but wath hapend on the end of the episod (O is for obedience)
    she allow caleb an julian to get away !
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    Chaz_

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    Because she couldn't kill her own flesh and blood.
    Aw, does that mean she still has some humanity left in her?
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    mist33

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    Chaz_ wrote:
    Because she couldn't kill her own flesh and blood. Aw, does that mean she still has some humanity left in her?

    I don't think she really bad she just has a warped idea of good, maybe it's the old age.

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    alexvoda

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    IMHO
    in the comics Phobos is better- he is a survivor and he learned from his mistakes(Although Phobos from tha show looks better)
    but Nerissa from the tv show is definitely the best-She has been through all 3 types of evil characters:
    1. seeking revenge( Oracle imprisoned Nerissa , Nerissa imprisoned Oracle)
    2. seeking destruction( Kandrakar is kind of trashed)
    3. seeking domination

    and The wrinkled evil one always has a plan
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    Chaz_

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    alexvoda wrote:
    IMHO
    in the comics Phobos is better- he is a survivor and he learned from his mistakes(Although Phobos from tha show looks better)
    but Nerissa from the tv show is definitely the best-She has been through all 3 types of evil characters:
    1. seeking revenge( Oracle imprisoned Nerissa , Nerissa imprisoned Oracle)
    2. seeking destruction( Kandrakar is kind of trashed)
    3. seeking domination

    and The wrinkled evil one always has a plan

    Don't forget how she trashed Meridian.
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