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    telvisnostic

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    Hurricane1123 wrote:
    NYGBRIAN246 wrote:
    Well I just wasted 5 min reading a ancient thread also does ROH not have PPVs?
    They haven't released any numbers that I'm aware of.
    They get an average around 10,000 for the buyrates.

    Hurricane here are some other numbers that you can read here.

    Edited on 11/05/2009 3:45pm
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    Hurricane1123

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    telvisnostic wrote:

    Hurricane1123 wrote:
    NYGBRIAN246 wrote:
    Well I just wasted 5 min reading a ancient thread also does ROH not have PPVs?
    They haven't released any numbers that I'm aware of.
    They get an average around 10,000 for the buyrates.

    hurrican here are soem other numbers that you can read here.

    Awesome, awesome! Statistical stuff like this always piques my interest.
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    Hurricane1123

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    I typically revive this thread when new PPV buyrate info comes out, so please don't get mad at me. WWE released their 3rd Quarter firgures today and although attendance and television profits were up, PPV business is down. Here are the buyrates for the Spring/Summer/Fall Pay-Per-Views for the past 3 years.

    Backlash

    194000 ( 2007 )

    200000 ( 2008 )

    182000 ( 2009 )

    Judgment Day

    242000 ( 2007 )

    252000 ( 2008 )

    228000 ( 2009 )

    Extreme Rules/One Night Stand

    186000 ( 2007 )

    194000 ( 2008 )

    213000 ( 2009 )

    The Bash/Great American Bash

    229000 ( 2007 )

    196000 ( 2008 )

    178000 ( 2009 )

    Night of Champions/Vengeance

    243000 ( 2007 )

    273000 ( 2008 )

    267000 ( 2009 )

    Summerslam

    537000 ( 2007 )

    477000 ( 2008 )

    369000 ( 2009 )

    Breaking Point/Unforgiven

    210000 ( 2007 )

    211000 ( 2008 )

    169000 ( 2009 )

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    Summerslam's number shocked me the most. I don't know if it was a down economy or if it was the 4 weeks build to the show that caused Summerslam to have such a low number but it's shocking.

    Edited on 11/05/2009 3:27pm
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    telvisnostic

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    Cut Breaking Point, The Bash, Backlash and ONS. Get rid of them all.
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    Nickylucas

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    Hurricane1123 wrote:

    Summerslam's number shocked me the most. I don't know if it was a down economy or if it was the 4 weeks build to the show that caused Summerslam to have such a low number but it's shocking.

    Well SSlam 07 had the Orton/Cena feud which was fresh then and was built up pretty good with Orton punting Cena's father and RKOing him onto the steel chair and stuff like that. SSlam 08 had the Taker vs. Edge HIAC which was a great main event when it comes to buildup with Edge banning taker from the WWE at One Night Stand and so on. The only reason ANYONE purchased SSlam 09 was Punk vs. Hardy and DX vs. Legacy, but mainly Punk vs. Hardy. So I am not that suprised the numbers have dropped from 07 to now, but I AM shocked on HOW MUCH they dropped. WWE really needs some quality feuds.

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    Hurricane1123

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    WWE released their 4th quarterly report for 2009 last week including the buyrates for the shows...

    No Mercy/Hell in a Cell

    197,000 (2006) (King Booker vs. Batista)

    271,000 (2007) (Randy Orton vs. Triple H Falls Count Anywhere)

    261,000 (200 (Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels Ladder Match)

    283,000 (2009) (DX vs. Legacy Hell in a Cell)

    Cyber Sunday/Bragging Rights

    228,000 (2006) (King Booker vs. Big Show vs. John Cena)

    194,000 (2007) (Batista vs. Undertaker Referee: Steve Austin)

    153,000 (200 (Batista vs. Chris Jericho Referee: Steve Austin)

    181,000 (2009) (Randy Orton vs. John Cena Iron Man Match)

    Survivor Series

    383,000 (2006) (Batista vs. King Booker)

    341,000 (2007) (Batista vs. Undertaker Hell in a Cell)

    319,000 (200 (Chris Jericho vs. John Cena)

    235,000 (2009) (Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H vs. John Cena)

    Armageddon/TLC: Tables, Ladders, and Chairs

    239,000 (2006) (Batista and John Cena vs. Finlay and King Booker)

    237,000 (2007) (Batista vs. Undertaker vs. Edge)

    193,000 (200 (Jeff Hardy vs. Edge vs. Triple H)

    228,000 (2009) (DX vs. Jerishow Tables, Ladders, and Chairs)

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    I'm not surprised by the numbers. For Survivor Series, even though the show was good, HBK and HHH pretty much spent the whole time feuding over Hornswoggle than actually making the title mean something. The only matches that seemed to be booked correctly were Team Kofi vs. Team Orton, and Batista vs. Rey Mysterio. I hate to see Survivor Series go since I love the 5 vs. 5 Elimination match, but I guess it's for the best. :S As for Hell in a Cell, the PPV was pretty disappointing yet because of the gimmick it got really good numbers.

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    JandSman

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    2006 the main event was Batista vs King Booker vs Finlay vs Bobby Lashley, And in 2007 the WWE Championship match was not announced until the show. I though Bragging Rights would have beaten 2007 Cyber Sunday. And Survivor Series had to go it can't be in the big four when Hell in a Cell beat Survivor Series by almost 50,000 buyrates
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    Sonic0531

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    telvisnostic wrote:
    Cut Breaking Point, The Bash, Backlash. Get rid of them all.


    Done, done and done.

    Honestly, I don't know why they cut HIAC. 2009 got the biggest ppv buyrates in the past four years, so that meant big things for that ppv. As for Survivor Series and Breaking Point......yeah, those were bad.
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    JandSman

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    Sonic0531 wrote:
    telvisnostic wrote:
    Cut Breaking Point, The Bash, Backlash. Get rid of them all.
    Done, done and done. Honestly, I don't know why they cut HIAC. 2009 got the biggest ppv buyrates in the past four years, so that meant big things for that ppv. As for Survivor Series and Breaking Point......yeah, those were bad.
    They didn't cut HIAC the order goes.

    WM
    Extreme Rules
    Wild Card
    Fatal Four Way
    MITB
    Summerslam
    Night of Champions
    HIAC

    Edited on 02/20/2010 11:17am
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    Sonic0531

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    JandSman wrote:

    Sonic0531 wrote:
    telvisnostic wrote:
    Cut Breaking Point, The Bash, Backlash. Get rid of them all.
    Done, done and done. Honestly, I don't know why they cut HIAC. 2009 got the biggest ppv buyrates in the past four years, so that meant big things for that ppv. As for Survivor Series and Breaking Point......yeah, those were bad.
    They didn't cut HIAC the order goes.

    WM
    Extreme Rules
    Wild Card
    Fatal Four Way
    MITB
    Summerslam
    Night of Champions
    HIAC



    Ah......well, now I feel stupid. Damn you, wikipedia!
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    Randyspeeps

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    It seems that the gimmick based PPV idea is working, as buyrates went up.
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    Nickylucas

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    Randyspeeps wrote:
    It seems that the gimmick based PPV idea is working, as buyrates went up.
    They would go up even higher if Vince would make an interesting storyline for a PPV that isn't WrestleMania.

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    telvisnostic

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    Randyspeeps wrote:
    It seems that the gimmick based PPV idea is working, as buyrates went up.
    I think it was out of curiosity more so than anything else.
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    JandSman

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    telvisnostic wrote:
    Randyspeeps wrote:
    It seems that the gimmick based PPV idea is working, as buyrates went up.
    I think it was out of curiosity more so than anything else.
    For some of them like Breaking Point or Bragging Rights but i don't think for like Hell in a Cell or TLC
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    Hurricane1123

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    WWE released PPV Buyrates info today, including for Wrestlemania 26. Royal Rumble 2008: 533000 2009: 450000 2010: 462000 No Way Out/Elimination Chamber 2008: 329000 2009: 272000 2010: 285000 Wrestlemania 2008: 1058000 2009: 960000 2010: 885000 ___________________________ A good show does not always equal buyrates. Last year's Mania got 75,000 more buys yet the consensus was that this year's show was better. Who knows really?

    Edited on 05/15/2010 5:59pm
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    telvisnostic

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    Money could have played a factor too.
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    Nickylucas

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    I don't think theirs one pro wrestling fan out there that wouldn't buy WrestleMania XXVI, unless they didn't have the money.I mean come on. Triple H vs. Sheamus, Randy Orton vs. Legacy Triple Threat, Chris Jericho vs. Edge, CM Punk vs. Rey Mysterio, John Cena vs. Batista, BRET HART vs. Mr. McMahon, UNDERTAKER VS. HBK...


    Come on. It's the best WrestleMania card for 2 years, and you can't deny it. It's mainly financial issues I'm sure for most people.

    Edited on 05/06/2010 1:18pm
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    JandSman

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    Yeah and that UFC Show the night before never helps
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    Hurricane1123 wrote:
    A good show does not always equal buyrates. Last year's Mania got almost a million more buys yet the consensus was that this year's show was better. Who knows really?


    True, but you only know whether or not a PPV is good after it's aired. When it's been established that WWE PPVs tend to be subpar at best, you're going to have less and less people willing to shell out $50-60 to take a chance that this one might break the trend and wind up being good. By the time people learn that the consensus is a card was good, most of the better matches/segments are probably floating around YouTube or something like that so there's no real need to pay the money after the fact.

    Really, it's the WWE's own fault. If they'd offer consistently good PPVs, their buyrates would probably rise or at least remain steady. They're not giving people incentive to reach into their pockets, unfortunately.

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    yooperchild

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    JandSman wrote:
    Yeah and that UFC Show the night before never helps


    Not going to lie, the UFC show totally kept me from buying 'Mania. GSP was fighting and he is the man, so I bought that instead of Wrestlemania...no way I could have justified both in a weekend.
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