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    Hurricane1123

    [21]Nov 2, 2011
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    ALLPR0 wrote:

    Deadnight-Majin wrote:


    ALLPR0 wrote:


    Deadnight-Majin wrote:


    Expectations for Del Rio vs Punk? I haven't seen many memorable Del Rio matches. His opening series with Rey was good, but that's all that really sticks in my mind. He had a decent match with Edge at Wrestlemania. The ladder match with Christian doesn't count, since the goodness in that one was all about Christian.


    Probably my biggest problem with the guy is that he's good at a lot of things but he never does anything great to stand out in my mind. I mean I give him a break sometimes when WWE doesn't give him more than 10 minutes on Raw most of the time. Still though I always get the feeling somethings missing with him and honestly I think its his heart, I just don't think its in the sport as much as Punk's is who will probably die a wrestler.


    I know what you mean there. There isn't anything particularly wrong with him, but the spark that is needed to be a draw just isn't there.


    Yep, he'll always be one of those guys who's always around the championship picture and will have a few decent title runs but I just don't ever see him actually carrying a show or being a mega star.

    Agreed. I like Del Rio, I really do, but when it comes to charisma, he's just lacking. I mean sure he has a gimmick that stands out and I love Ricardo Rodriguez and all, but wrestling aside, he just spouts out random generic arrogant "I'm the best" heel promos that have been so overdone in the industry. Even throughout the bits where he starts speaking in Spanish all he's saying is "dirty dogs" and "inbred Chicanos" to the crowd.

    I will say that he is far more experienced than many of the newbies that come in to the WWE, but that probably has more than a decade of experience wrestling in Mexico and didn't really go through the whole FCW cookie-cutter program.
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    Randyspeeps

    [23]Nov 6, 2011
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    The card looks a little weak so far. Anyone agrees?
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    Raccoon1459

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    The Rock says that he and John Cena are going to be a tag team only once, but I think somewhere down the road they'll join forces again before Wrestlemania.
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    Deadnight-Majin

    [25]Nov 7, 2011
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    Randyspeeps wrote:
    The card looks a little weak so far. Anyone agrees?
    I think it would benefit greatly from the tag match being turned into a Survivor Series match, and Henry vs Big Show 2 doesn't seem worthy of Survivor Series.

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    telvisnostic

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    I'd like to see a team of Christian's Peeps vs Sheamus' team.


    I'd like to see a team of Rhode's disgruntles vs Randy's team.


    I'd like to see a team of Ziggler's team vs Super Fan Ryder.

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    Deadnight-Majin

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    telvisnostic wrote:


    I'd like to see a team of Christian's Peeps vs Sheamus' team.


    I'd like to see a team of Rhode's disgruntles vs Randy's team.


    I'd like to see a team of Ziggler's team vs Super Fan Ryder.



    They don't have enough (over) people to do all three, so merging them would be a good idea.

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    telvisnostic

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    Throughout Survivor Series, not everyone is relevant on the team. They are just fillers.


    2 out of those 3 matches could happen if they wanted.

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    telvisnostic

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    And like you said Majin, they combined them. New match has been officially added.


    Traditional SuSe Tag Team


    Team Orton vs Team Barrett



    Someone explain to me how Barrett has a team and Cody doesn't.

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    Randyspeeps

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    That is a great question. This should be Cody's team not Barrett's. What does Mason Ryan have to do with this match?
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    Deadnight-Majin

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    Randyspeeps wrote:
    That is a great question. This should be Cody's team not Barrett's. What does Mason Ryan have to do with this match?


    I assume they are transitioning from the Orton/Cody feud to Orton/Barrett, which would explain it being "Team Barrett"...I think. As for Mason Ryan,two of the heels are feuding solely with Orton, so a random guy had to be brought in to make up the numbers.


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    Randyspeeps

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    Deadnight-Majin wrote:

    Randyspeeps wrote:
    That is a great question. This should be Cody's team not Barrett's. What does Mason Ryan have to do with this match?


    I assume they are transitioning from the Orton/Cody feud to Orton/Barrett, which would explain it being "Team Barrett"...I think. As for Mason Ryan,two of the heels are feuding solely with Orton, so a random guy had to be brought in to make up the numbers.


    When did the Orton/Barrett feud start? I haven't seen anything that says these two are in a feud.
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    telvisnostic

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    I haven't seen it either, unless they will start on Friday..

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    ALLPR0

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    Deadnight-Majin wrote:


    Randyspeeps wrote:
    That is a great question. This should be Cody's team not Barrett's. What does Mason Ryan have to do with this match?


    I assume they are transitioning from the Orton/Cody feud to Orton/Barrett, which would explain it being "Team Barrett"...I think. As for Mason Ryan,two of the heels are feuding solely with Orton, so a random guy had to be brought in to make up the numbers.



    That and Ryan has had a small thing going with Swagger and Ziggler. It doesn't really matter to me whether Barrett or Rhodes is leader of this team because they're both on the outskirts of the main event and I'm sure both of them will be made to look very good in this matchup.

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    JLe1223

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    I think it would made more sense to have Rhodes as the leader of that team. He is the champion after all.
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    Deadnight-Majin

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    telvisnostic wrote:


    I haven't seen it either, unless they will start on Friday..


    That's what I assume will happen. I wonder why they didn't just wait til then to announce the match.

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    telvisnostic

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    Deadnight-Majin wrote:
    telvisnostic wrote:
    I haven't seen it either, unless they will start on Friday..
    That's what I assume will happen. I wonder why they didn't just wait til then to announce the match.
    I was wondering that one myself.


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    telvisnostic

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    WWE Championship




    Alberto Del Rio (c) vs CM Punk


    World Heavyweight Championship


    Mark Henry (c) vs Big Show

    WWE Divas Championship LumberJill Match




    Beth Phoenix (c) vs Eve




    Tag Team match




    John Cena & The Rock vs The Awesome Truth


    U.S. Championship




    Dolph Ziggler (c) vs John Morrison


    5-on-5 Traditional Survivor Series Tag Team Match



    Team Orton vs. Team Barrett


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