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    missribs

    [1]May 26, 2006
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    As far as episode submissions go for shows which have not yet aired: ie. "Summer Season" '06, Fall Season '06, mid-season replacements early '07, Spring Season '07...

    When entering a "NEW" episode, you need to have at least 2 out of the 3 following criteria PLUS a URL for the source of the information you are adding (besides also entering Episode Season/Lifetime Numbers and Episode Type):

    -Episode Name
    -Episode Summary
    -Episode Airdate

    NOTE: "Pilot" is not a valid episode title for a first episode unless you have a resource that specifically states that the episode is in fact titled "Pilot". This also goes for choosing "Pilot" for the "Episode Type" - unless it is a stand alone episode or before the airing of the series, generally it would be a regular episode. Also, the dates that were added by staff for these pilots were an estimate based on the information available at the time and was added so people would know if it was fall or midseason for the purposes of the feature (so, if the show summary says 09/01/06 or 01/01/07 it is an estimate to indicate the season the show will be airing in and not information for the episodes to go by). You can also update the show summary information as it becomes available but it is not reliable for purposes of episode airdates.

    ***If the above requirements are not met, your submission will be rejected. When editing these episodes thereafter, you must also have a URL for any edits you are making up until the episode(s) actually airs.***

    [Since these episodes have not yet aired and whatever the most current information regarding them is definitely available on the internet, there isn't any reason why you shouldn't be able to provide one.]
    Edited on 05/26/2006 3:26pm
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    TVTome_Sudser

    [2]May 26, 2006
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    Regarding the episode summary portion, there was a forum post awhile back asking users to stop with the 'coming soon' summaries. If a summary is unavailable, what should be used?

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    missribs

    [3]May 26, 2006
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    you can write "coming soon" if you don't have a summary on these, that's OK. that post was referring to submissions where users were ONLY adding coming soon and nothing else on the form (so basically no valuable information). when users submit "coming soon" as the only edit, we reject it.
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    TVTome_Sudser

    [4]May 26, 2006
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    Ah! That makes sense. When I've read it, I've taken it to mean that a synopsis that simply says 'Coming soon' is a no-go. Would we be okay to decline if the episode has already aired and someone is simply submitted the new episode with 'Coming soon' rather than any summary at all?

    BTW, thank you for the quick response.

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    missribs

    [5]May 26, 2006
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    No, it wouldn't be fair to reject a submission that does have the other, required criteria mentioned above but in addition has "coming soon" as the summary - even if it has already aired.
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    maritimer00

    [6]May 26, 2006
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    I hope production codes for unaired episodes are also met with a URL requirement as well...
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    studog2961

    [7]May 26, 2006
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    I have been known to PM a user to ask for a source for their information.  Some of the time I get an answer...other times I don't. 

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    missribs

    [8]May 26, 2006
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    yup, production codes same thing...
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    dju010

    [9]May 26, 2006
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    I like this new rule, but then please obtain the rules dear stuff members.
    I just got a rejection, with this explanation.
    Well I had included an episode summary, about three basically spoiler free sentences and the airdate (everything available and no copy/paste!).
    Both confirmed with an URL to the official episode page at the network.
    I named the episode pilot, since no other info was available. So two out of three criteria were included and still my submission got rejected.
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    laurameyer

    [10]May 26, 2006
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    dju010 wrote:
    I like this new rule, but then please obtain the rules dear stuff members. I just got a rejection, with this explanation. Well I had included an episode summary, about three basically spoiler free sentences and the airdate (everything available and no copy/paste!). Both confirmed with an URL to the official episode page at the network. I named the episode pilot, since no other info was available. So two out of three criteria were included and still my submission got rejected.

    You need to submit a real episode name. Misribs said the only they will take pilot as a valid title is to find a link with a source that list pilot as the title.

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    Freo_Dude

    [11]May 27, 2006
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    this is a question i've asked on the forums before, but it wasnt answered properly...

    *Can i add JUST the 'airdate' to an episode that already has NO summary? (the episode isnt new, its old)
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    laurameyer

    [12]May 27, 2006
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    Freo_Dude wrote:
    this is a question i've asked on the forums before, but it wasnt answered properly... *Can i add JUST the 'airdate' to an episode that already has NO summary? (the episode isnt new, its old)

    I think you can.

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    dju010

    [13]May 28, 2006
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    laurameyer wrote:
    You need to submit a real episode name. Misribs said the only they will take pilot as a valid title is to find a link with a source that list pilot as the title.


    Yes it is. You're correct. But take a look at my post. There you see that the other two criteria were matched! The airdate and the summary! I pointed out in my commentary that no title is available.
    BUT two of the three criteria, the summary and the airdate were entered and I provided a link to the official source. So as I read this rules, enough the be accepted!
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    Im2Crazy4U

    [14]May 29, 2006
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    Two out of three just may not be enough.

    Or it is enough, and this was rejected for a different reason.

    [Edit: Finished my sentence]
    Edited on 05/29/2006 6:29am
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    TheOldBill

    [15]May 30, 2006
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    You're right, dju010. I dunno how much plainer the first post could be!
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    Im2Crazy4U

    [16]May 31, 2006
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    missribs wrote:
    When entering a "NEW" episode, you need to have at least 2 out of the 3 following criteria PLUS a URL for the source of the information you are adding (besides also entering Episode Season/Lifetime Numbers and Episode Type)


    In rereading the first post, perhaps having two out of three items is not enough when you don't include a URL for the source. This could have been dju010's issue.
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    dju010

    [17]May 31, 2006
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    I think you simply don't read my posts. I included the URL for the content and the date, so that couldn't be it. I selected regular episode (since it's that) and selected season one, episode one, lifetime one. So in my eyes all needed and correct, but I don't want this topic turn into an analysis of one of my rejected submissions.
    My original post was just to point it out to the staff. So please let us finish this conversation.
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    Gislef

    [18]May 31, 2006
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    dju010 wrote:
    Well I had included an episode summary, about three basically spoiler free sentences and the airdate (everything available and no copy/paste!).


    Was the episode summary unique, or just a restatement of the Show Summary?

    Granted, sometimes they can be very similar in nature anyway. Still, if someone on staff thought you were simply rehashing the show summary, it might have been rejected.
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    dju010

    [19]May 31, 2006
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    The show summary given by network is something like this:
    Person moves in the big city.
    Person gets a job.
    Person makes new friends.

    I wrote (based on the official information) for the first episodes:
    Person packs her things and says goodbye to her family.
    person moves in her new apartment and meets her roommates for the first time.
    Person tries to get a job.

    Of course I made a correct text not just such a listing, but please it might just have been an error.

    Please let us finish this discussion, since I'm the only one who experienced such a rejection. Please let us stop. I wouldn't have written my first post when I had known the result. I just was angry.

    Maybe something was changed when I scrolled down or so, or the rejection was a mistake. I don't know. But that was in the past and since nobody else has the problem I don't see the point to discuss this anymore in public.
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    Edward_Nigma

    [20]Jun 1, 2006
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    Thanks missribs for posting this, and thanks staff for working out the issue.  I'm glad that you guys (along with all the users here) saw my thread about this issue and decided to make a clear-cut rule concerning the issue.  It seems dju has a problem...but hopefully something is being worked out with that, as I'd like to hope that this new rule is in fact something that will be enforced properly. 

    The only downside is that editors can still avoid this rule if they choose to...at least we now know what we're supposed to include in a submission for a future episode.

    Thanks again. 

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