Monday February 18, 2008
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The stranger from last week, fighting for his life and flashing in and out of consciousness, recalls his future life battling the machines in 2027. Meanwhile, Sarah tries to explain the past to Charlie.
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I think this episode really answered many questions but also opened so many not known secrets what we want to know now.
First the flash forwards.. what for that man was his past.. and how he recalls how life was then.. on the future, where robots have taken over.. and yes, Andy was behind it all.
I did like the way that future storyline showed us all those freedom figthers.. what they are fighting for.. giving so much more depth to the story.
And now.. Charlie and Sarah.. and the whole explain what is going on thing.. to take it all and realize that it has all been set before and they are just pieces trying to fight against their place in bigger plan.. to save the world. Stunning. And the way Cameron manages to be weird and scary.. that still surprised me.
Not as good as the previous episodes from this brand new series in my honest opinion.
Personally, for myself, I thought that it was hard to follow, well for me anyway. I dont know if that was down to me not concentrating and watching the episode under full attention or whether it was badly written.
But dont let me get you wrong, this episode definately wasnt bad, it was great in my opinion, but I hope they dont continue to confuse people like me too much more in future episodes.
Episode gets a 9.5 out of 10 from me, was definately another great episode.
Flashbacks show Derek's life before coming back and John must decide whether to tell him the truth about Kyle. hide show
For the first time in the series, through Derek's eyes, we see the 'history of the future': Two years before Kyle came back, Derek and Kyle in the tunnels, Kyle carrying Sarah's picture. Kyle never questions why John gave him her photo and even Derek comments on it.
During his delirium, Derek starts ranting at John about where he sent Kyle, Derek didn't know about the time machine then or Kyle's mission which is how he doesn't know that Sarah knew him. And to top it off, he's met Cameron before. She saved his life when one of the reprogrammed Terminators went 'bad', kind of alarming to know that can happen. Especially when Cameron didn't destroy the chip.
We now know the suspicions about Andy were well founded, Derek knew him in the future and Andy admitted building Skynet. Problem is there were 10 scientists involved, Andy was only one of them. The rest are still out there.
Still having the Terminator's body, it's easy to show Charlie the truth, but it'll be a while before he can accept it. Great scene with Cameron as she destroys the Terminator, he doesn't have a clue what he's involved in. He's never stopped loving her and all she can do is destroy him, which is why she left in the first place.
We finally see the infamous time machine and Derek prepares his team to go back. When one asks how they'll 'fix' it, Derek nods coldly at Andy. He knew then – stop the scientists, stop Skynet. Great scene.
John puts Derek's mind to rest about Kyle's fate but doesn't tell him they're family. Derek lied – he did kill Andy. But doesn't change the fact that someone took the Turk.
Great scenes of the future, filling in the gaps in the future and the grand plan.
This episode has an incoherent narrative, and turns the message of the original films into a joke. hide show
First off, I have to say that I laughed my throat raw when they introduced the photo of Sarah in the flashback-to-the-future. They keep trying to have throwbacks to the films, as fanservice I guess (or possibly because they're fans themselves), but they're doing it ALL WRONG. In this episode alone, they not only made a joke of the photo of Sarah that Reese carried, they completely ruined the resonance of the "no fate but what we make" line by having Sarah flat-out deny it, as well as turning Reese's intense "it absolutely will not stop" speech into a ho-hum voiceover (also by Sarah).
Moreover, the episode was a complete mess from a narrative standpoint. They mish-mashed stuff together in no particular order, and the flashbacks-to-the-future didn't have a coherent storyline at all. It would have been much simpler, and a lot more comprehensible, just to have given Derek Reese a little exposition scene about what had happened to him. I also found the flash-future scenes to be tedious & draggy, especially near the beginning, when they had little dialogue.
Actually, I found the WHOLE episode to be tedious & draggy. The touchy-feely scenes ("You got 'sploded, & I cried into my pillow for weeks!") fell so flat, and just... were awkward. And Sarah congratulating her son for taking a chance that "worked out" (by bringing Charlie to care for Derek) is sort of counting their chickens. I mean, there're a million ways that could still get screwed up. At least Lena Headey is getting better with her American accent. I wasn't jolted out of the show by any obviously British pronunciations this episode.
The only scene I actually liked was Cameron & Charlie Dixon talking in the garage, even if Charlie is a Larry Stu. I find it interesting that robot is the most layered & emotionally complex character. I mean, she is essentially helping them commit a genocide of her kind.
What also bugged me like crazy was that they tried to ominously imply that Cameron was about to smother Derek with a pillow. WITH A PILLOW. She's a frickin' Terminator! Her BARE HANDS would be more efficient! And what really goads me is that they would never, ever put a pillow into the hands of a buff, male Terminator as any kind of implied threat. You better show some respect to your characters, if you want the audience to.
Flashback to the future! Not as good as Queen's Gambit which is a tough act to follow. hide show
This episode builds suspense. We have a flashback to before Cameron and Derek jump from the future to the present. It's made clear why Derek was after Andy and what Derek did to Andy, and that Cameron and Derek had knowledge of each other from the future.
The scenes from the future are confusing. I didn't understand what was going on because it's really unclear what happened. There's some classical music in the work camp that Derek was in when he was a captive.
We also see Cameron gather another piece of equipment required to build killer machines. This time it's the processing chip of the Terminator they were able to disable in the previous episode.
There is definitely something amiss with Cameron. She's operating with her own agenda. We don't really know if she's just following the orders that John Connor gave her from the past or if she has her own agenda that contrary to what Connor of the future wants from her.
The episode doesn't work very well because there are so many loose ends introduced. It works to draw the viewer into the show if you happen to enjoy the suspense.
There were some more things that are impossible but made for a good story. John Connor cannot possibly be AB. If Sarah Connor is O and she is John's mother, the antigens on blood can only be A or B. Sarah would have to be A or B to make it possible for John to be AB.
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