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See its like in real live - u have 2 friends who really like each other and they finally get together - happy days - so what would annoy you? ( I tell you)
x to know about every little fight they have
x to hear how crazy in love they are the whole time
x to hear all their amazing sex stories - cause they love to have sex
x to see them cuddle and hug and kiss the whole time
x if they suddenly change their whole behavior
x if they dont call you or any other friends anymore
So why do writers show us exactly that on tv?
I rolled my eyes about a mill. times when Jess and Nick finally got together and then there was this one episode pretty much just about there sex life.. look I get it youre in love and u wanna have sex all the time (because only that shows that you like each other right? And there is nooo other way to show it and EVERYBODY in the world wants to have sex 10times a day at the beginning right? ( good that it seems like no one on New Girl has a job ) )
What I mean is just bring people together and then just let them be like they were before! 1 or 2 scenes where they cuddle on the couch, 1-2 scenes over a longer period where they fight and a kiss before they go to work. And no one would be annoyed. Just stop forcing it - then people get annoyed, just like in real life
And PLEASE no more on/off stories!!!
;))))
It had them living the good life together years after the finale. However Major Nelson went on another space flight and there was a catastrophe; he was doomed to die.
Jeannie was powerless to save him, so she had to make a deal with another powerful being. He accepted, so long as Jeannie and Nelson break up and all of his memories of her were erased. Jeannie begrudgingly accepted, Major Nelson returned and forgot her.
But she reveals to the camera that the deal never said she couldn't start a NEW relationship with Major Nelson and she went off to introduce herself.
An old one that didn't work was Laura Holt and Remington Steele in Remington Steele. Near the end of the show's run they got together, and it was terrible. Of course, by then Pierce Brosnan had been offered James Bond and had to decline because of his contract with the show, so I imagine he wasn't really into it.
As for Tony & Ziva, I never liked to ship them. They were a great team, but I didn't want them to get together, so I thought the writers ended it well. I am looking forward to Tony's new relationship (I want him to be happy), but I don't want it to be a big part of the show.
I am not sure if I shipped Tony and Ziva, but their UST was great for the show. If they'd ever resolved it, I do hope we'd keep the way they were treating each other. When I read that Cote would leave the show, I thought about this option where that ship would sail and shw would go working somewhere else. She could have the odd guest star as Tony's partner in that way. But it din't happen.
It is the one show of which I still watch as many of them coming together on conventions. Those video's on YouTube are often so good and they are so much still having fun with each other. The ones where Nathan Fillion just calls in while others are in panels are hillarious.
"“what makes ships sink?” “when others ships have a canon" (borrowed from tumblr)
But I like the idea that another ship would sink them because they were stronger. A bit like when Hodgins and Angela would sink Seeley and Temperance.
I think their are not enough good couples out there! Lily and Marshall were awesome and I know a few people said they are boring but I never thought so - also when couples get a Baby - doesnt need to be boring!
I dont understand people who say couples or babies are boring.
How can anyone who watches tv show since a while still enjoy those over the top dramas with "will they or not" couples? no idea... Thats actually a reason for me to stop watching a show! I hate it its annyoing
I just cant understand why its so hard for so many writers to bring up interesting couples/families with kids
Nope, that complaint will live unto the end of time. Biggest and most stupid decision on the part of the head wankers in the history of television.
Michael Weatherly, who plays Tony said in a commentary on an episode: “Unresolved sexual tension. It's the engine that makes television run.". He is right.
Very right. Would that the idiots in charge learned their lesson. They don't.
What are your ships that have become wrecks and caused you to stop watching the shows?
Tiny Tim and Miss Vicky. It was the end of The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson. JK, just want to prove I'm old and remember the man who will never, EVER be equaled in the sewer that is late night television. Never.
As I said in the post, Bones didn't work for ma after the pregnancy and marriage, although I understood the last episodes were better. But in general I missed the Bones from the first seasons, the martial arts specialist and writer who also dabbled at the Smithsonian. Maybe that marriage and changed dynamics was the last drop. As for Angela and Hodgings, those two have been great the whole series, but their relation has always been supporting and never on top as the Bones - Seelay one is. And it seemed to be more poignant after they came together.
Also, if we're mentioning stargate, then Elizebeth and John. There was defenitly something there and they had chemistry. They killed her way too soon, and used her way too little when she was there.
But I do remember Jack had some chemistry with a woman. I will have to see it some day....
And contrary to common belief, I do like to watch a happy couple even outside a sitcom-setting. Castle is a nice example. I also liked Zoe and Wash on Firefly, although there is no telling how that might have worked out in the long run. In Medium, the happy family was more compelling to watch than the weekly cases. Then there is Hart to Hart - a mediocre detective show, but with a loving couple at its centre. A handful more come to mind - The Closer, Ghost Whisperer, Pushing Daisies, Burn Notice - but happy couples are definitely to few and far between in TV drama for my taste.
To date, there are only two shows that handled the on again/off again thing ok, and both because it was because they explained it with some kind of space/time warp: Farscape and Eureka.
I once saw a panel with Joss Whedon where he was asked what he regretted most on Firefly and his answer was : 'killing Wash'.
Because of these events,I'm a little jaded with seeing happy relationships on TV since a lot of the times,it doesn't work out,or they bicker or they are a happy couple but YOU don't feel it.Like in real life,relationships come and go and it becomes more about your own personal happiness.
Besides,give me a great and intriguing story-line over a romance story any day!
More currently the TV couple that has become one of my favorite ones was Ned and Chuck, from Pushing Daisies. They had emotional issues, but they were not as extreme as many other couples. But they had a singular problem: they couldn't ever touch, or she would die. That made it hilarious, endearing, fantastic, original, and full of enough tension.
I guess I'm in the minority. I understand drawing out sexual tension for as long as you can, I do, but once that ship starts to sail, you sail it or you don't. This whole breaking up and getting back together shtick is so boring to me. It's just frustrating and will make me lose interest much faster than a happy couple.
I mean, especially when you have a couple like Glenn/Maggie on the Walking Dead. They are happy and secure in their relationship to each other, but people call them boring all the time. I don't understand it. Do people actually want them to start having relationship issues when they have more pressing issues - like NOT BEING EATEN TOMORROW? I just don't get what people want...
Oliver/Felicity on Arrow is supposedly very close to becoming canon. Now, that is one couple that I am very afraid of being ruined if they get together. I love Olicity to death, but I don't know if the writers will know how to keep that teasing going, and I will admit to that. However, the end game couple - Oliver/Laurel - is just so atrocious that the writers really need to let that one go. They just really do.
In the end, I prefer happy couples. Just get my OTPs together, don't change their personalities once they get together, and keep them happy. That's what I want.
Yes. I hate happy couples and happy detectives. Every single successful UK show with a detective was one where the lead was a miserably unhappy alcoholic misanthrope. Morse, Vera, Cracker, Frost, e.g. - happily, when they put those guys in schmoopy relationships, the women always died. Now THAT'S a smart PTB.
I hate characters that make stupid decisions, and I hate stupid characters. And that's what you get when writers feel compelled to make characters miserable or have them perpetually in a state of unknown with their UST.
I don't really know why, I'm not a psychologist, but we viewers find it more easy to relate tot drama as we will remember easily points in life that are connected to that tv drama. But when we see happiness on tv, we never relate that to our own happiness. If only it were different, but we humans are pretty horrible in that sense.
Great love is eternal, everlasting. It's sitting by your bedside for six months without a single passionate romp while they wait for you to get better. It's still holding your hand forty years down the line. It's knowing what you look with and without your makeup on, and loving both sides. It's beautiful and comfortable and doesn't breed mistrust or hate or anger... Love is good and pure and only rare because people make it rare.
Love isn't being an asshole and only realizing you had a good thing when it's gone - and then repeatedly getting back together with that person only to grow bored over and over again so spicing it up with more stupid mistakes.
To me, the greatest love stories have all of the drama come from the outside. The couple itself is strong, but the world is against them.
I once read that only 10% of couples that come back together after a break will succeed in that new hookup. And how many people in real life hook up again? There is a reason they broke up and after some time they will remember why. With ' Unforgettable' cannot forget it.
I do hope Olicity does not sail. Even if they're in relationships with others, they can keep up the same tension and teasing relation they have now, it would absolutely fit.
I wish I could remember how exactly it ended, I think it was Harry went chasing after Christine, but Night Court did the tension great between those two characters, even having them kiss a couple times only to realize it was not quite right. I think it was one of the better great tensions between two characters who never really got together.
cheaterscharacters,Many older post are still fun to read and can be appreciated. You can always show your appreciation by 'hearting' it.
Maybe its because the tension of the story isn't built around romance:
and so that, whenever you do see something like Glenn & Maggie or Bob & Sasha, they never seem boring.
Think TWD (not TVD :P) is indeed doing a good job in that department,
...and Grimm would've found itself with no tension to base their show on.
:)
Castle works because the creators/producers are an actual married couple in real life who have frequently said Castle/Beckett were endgame from the start and we would see the natural progression from awkward strangers, to partners, to boyfriend/girlfriend/lovers, to a married couple. Though at times i'm kind of like, is Castle done yet?, i like that it works for the show. They resolved all of their major cases whereas most series will drag them, limping and bleeding, throughout the entire series. All they have now is the 3XK storyline, and the interrupted wedding.
I loved Bones, but i can't watch past the 5th or 6th season now. They could have handled Emily Deschanel's pregnancy better, rather than suddenly, out of the blue, claiming they slept together and bam, she's preggo. (who thinks, even in tv fantasy land, that woman was too smart not to have birth control of some sort?? She was always talking about sex!) They could have had her go on a dig somewhere for x amount of weeks, and pair Booth with someone new who would drive him insane in a not good way and have us laughing until she returned, but no. They killed it.
I think New Girl might be able to climb out of their hole. What i enjoy most about that show is the friendship first aspect.
Speaking of NCIS, what about NCIS:LA? 5 years (well, 4, since Deeks was only in the last few episodes of season 1) Deeks and Kenzi finally got it on, she's sent away (a good way of handling a real life pregnancy, i'm looking at you Bones) and returns ready for a relationship but he thinks better of it, and they collectively put their romance on the back burner on purpose. The flirting and the jealousy though! I thought it would taper off but wow, was i wrong. They're awesome together, and apart, and i can't wait for the next season.
There are many others i can think of. Don't get me started on HIMYM. But those are my faves/least favorites.
I see a lot of people complain about Castle, but much like the first NCIS, which I think is starting to fall short, it is the characters I love more so than the stories. On Castle the couple works and they play off each other perfectly.
I've watched HIMYM until the end. I always thought that the relations in the group were the weakest part of the show. Let alone how it ended.
And yeas, Bones getting pregnant in the show was a dealbreaker. After that it never bounced back. The explanation was, as you said, 'the easy way out'. If only they had some creativity in the writing room.
You could at least have given the post a heart if you liked it that much
if you like this article, please heart it ?
Come on, people, heart this article.
Thus I started the initiative to have a few lines in a post asking the readers to 'heart' it if they liked reading it. And for some reason, I forgot to put the line in this post. Your comment made me aware of it, so I'll put it in.
Reading some other comment, people do not really know what 'hearting' is, so I think about making a post explaining it and linking to it every time I/we ask for that heart. If staff does not help, we have to do it ourselves. We do not get the pageview number (we have asked ....) so the only way to know if people have read and/or like it are comments and 'hearts'.
;-p
For Stefan and Caroline, if it adds to the story it must happen. If it will kill off their relationship and theirs in relation to the others, please keep them apart. If they get together and break up afterwards, it will be killing also.
You listed Bones, Castle, Moonlighting, and The X-Files, and I'm sure there are many more, but for more recent shows like The Strain and The Lottery does this formula mean at some point in the future we'll definitely be seeing Eph and Nora or Kyle and Allison getting together? Is there no other way for television series to present two opposite-sex leads?
The fun thing is that the sexual tension can hardly be written in the storyline and when the producers cast the actors, they hardly know if it will happen. We see the shows on tv where it did happen, as those are the shows that get good rates and get renewed. If it doesn't happen and the main characters are just acting, we viewers know it and the rates drop automatically.
If there are new shows like the Strain and The Lottery (still have to pick up both but I will), I believe there is an 75% chance it will happen after a few years as the writers just aren't good enough to not make it happen. But personally I rather have it not happen and have the tension add to the storylien then have it happen and the storyline is killed.
Or do you have a really, really, really advanced kid (like the one in Dream On) who is a future writer of tv.com? :O)
He is not a writer at all. He has written one story in his life. He was forced by his teacher Dutch to send in a story for a competition. He won the competition and the story was published. If only I had a bit of his talent. I assume the only thing he writes these days are notes for his lectures.
I guess you though I was young at heart :-)
Did you ever read that post I wrote especially for you on law systems to support my European detective series (you can find it here)? I never heard if you read it.
I am a man, but I did understand the attraction of Prince Oberyn. I mentioned him as one of the characters I miss most in a recent post.
Violets was superb, I loved pascal and I loved his Pike in the episode and how he romanced Lisbon. It's the way they made progress the story between them afterward that was kind of... uhm... well, if the guy you are dating from two weeks asks you to move on the other side of the country with him, well... I'd freak out a little.
If I have to be honest, I think that the allure of the ship (and yes, I hate Jisbon and Jello too- more to Jane/Lisbon. I shiver when I hear ships names. Yep. Brangelina too.) has more to do witht he eventually and the things left unsaid; I may have shipped Fox and Dana when I was a kid (ehm), but the moment I saw them together on screen, I was all lifted eyebrows on my side, like "Bad move, writers, bad move... why can't you leave this to fanfiction writers?" That's why I fear there's a good cahnce that I will abandon the mentalist after so many years, after few episodes pf season seven...
So what do you think it is that makes these couple flop after they get together? The writing? The lack of romance or teasing? Chemistry? what?
I really do not know. But my guess is that the writers and staff were chosen because they were good in a certain type of show. Getting a couple together changes so much in the writing, the actors interaction and maybe even in the filming, that it's not the right crew anymore to keep up the quality of before. I also think that it's done quite some times to 'jump the shark'meaning that the series is already going down. It's just continuing and we shouldn't blame the ship for that.
I like in NCIS that Ziva and Tony's relationship didn't really effect the show's writing at all. It enhanced it if anything, gave it more substance.
I wonder how that differs from shows where the main characters already are established couples and they write around that?